To a partial extent I agree and in the same breath I might suggest the same thing for the actual victors of the tournament. Something tells me Clapham doesn't need another tour victory trophy. Winning is all the reward for your efforts some people need. Some TDs go all out and get some clever trophies that are really special. Quite often though it's just another standard chuck of glass, metal or plastic.
As for spirit, having just watched the European Cup and and the Stanley Cup (the ugliest trophy in the world) it did put into perspective the culture in our sport we can often take for granted. It can be really tough at times during a tough match not to loose your head when down and to understand that a foul called on you was just in the heat of competition and although wrong, isn't worth getting worked up over. People aren't as good by nature as we'd like them to be and rewarding positive play, be it good knowledge of the rules, good temperament, or good togas, can't be bad. If I leave a game feeling good I want to credit that team for it and I also feel that if they made other teams feel as good as they made me feel they should be recognized. As for whether a prize is given or not, again I think that comes down to context. Sometimes is absolutely necessary (anything played at lower or development levels) and other times it's just another bit of kit to take home while the real trophy is the britdisc announcement telling all about how we left everyone we played with smile. Trophies are just symbolic after all and while I do wish some TDs would put some more effort into making them a bit more special I don't think there's any need to get rid of them as they do no harm. Their presence in the game can at times be secondary, however a watching a young captain collect her/his first spirit award is priceless. Steve G loving the Chris Rock reference. 2008/7/15 peter robert wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > all this discussion about scoring got me thinking...... > > yes, spirit is important. obviously > yes, all (espec new) players should be inculcated in what spirit is and what > fair play is by their peers/captains. > yes, we should care about whether games are spirited or not. > yes, we should discuss the spirit of games during and after games with each > other. > > but... > > - do we need a spirit winner of the competition? > - is rewarding people with a trophy (or some alcohol!) for acting > according to an assumed and fundamental premise of the sport what we should > be doing? > > i'm not so sure this idea of a spirit winner is such a good thing. > > to reward the most spirited team seems to me to be like rewarding the person > who commits the least murders....(i realise that's an imperfect analogy, so > be kind!). > > my point is not dissimilar to (though hopefully less controversial than) > chris rock's famous rant in his stand-up set: > > *N*****s always want credit for some sh*t they're supposed to do....They'll > say something like, "Yeah, well I take care of my kids." You're > *supposed*to, you dumb motherf***er. "I ain't never been to jail." > Whaddya want? A > cookie? You're not *supposed* to go to jail, you low-expectation-having > motherf***er!* > > but ditching the prize doesn't necessarily mean not doing spirit scores. > couldn't we.... > > 1. score the opposition (however we deem best), either anonymously or > not, > 2. hand them in to TD > 3. then the TD *JUST gives them out to the relevant team captains at the > end* - so i would be given fire's scores from other teams. *no prize, but > feedback nonetheless. * > > thoughts??? > > rodders > __________________________________________________ > BritDisc mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed > -- ------------------ __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed
