Benji,

May I congratulate you and every one working hard on all players behalf to
keep the Tour at the forefront of the development of competitive Ultimate in
the UK.

Could I ask that you and the committee working on this to offer some
enlightenment on where this might lead to next year.  Perhaps you could have
a statement of the intended changes or a draft of ideas ready for all the
members of the UKU by the end of this season?

I respect that there are a lot of volunteer hours going in here (and admit
that I do not wish to step up to the plate on Tour scheduling) but I do
think we have reach a point where our national organisation needs to start
thinking 2 - 3 years ahead to be fair to the members.  We are beginning to
reach a point where by the networks disseminating the information from the
UKU are extending quickly but the flow of information is not increasing.  I
say this because I find an increasing number of players with Tour experience
that are not on BD and do not read the UKU Updates.

I would like to note I do appreciate the current changes going to to draw
the European teams over to the UK and I see UKU making great gains in its
organisation and structure.  So please carry on but plan and communicate a
little further ahead.



Scraggy


On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 10:10 AM, UKU Director of Competitions <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Just a reminder that the Birmingham venue will host the top 32 teams for
> Tour 2, meaning all those who played T1 in London (except the 5
> non-returning European teams) and the top 13 teams from Bishop's Cleeve.
> Other teams, and Women's, will be in Burton.
>
> I don't imagine there will be drop-outs at that top level, but if any team
> amongst that top 32 is not intending to attend T2, please get in touch very
> very soon so that we can bump someone up.
>
> Cheers,
> Benji
>
>
> UKU Director of Competitions wrote:
>
>> BD,
>>
>> A note about tournament formats for this season, and an explanation.
>> Long-winded no doubt, but you should see the amount of discussion that's
>> gone into this.
>>
>> The competitions committee are very much behind the idea of keeping a
>> separate identity for the A,B and C tour - it seems to us that most people's
>> imaginations have been caught by the divisional structure and that most
>> people refer to themselves as 'an A tour team' or 'a B tour team' and so on.
>> The divisions also allow simple schedules to be written for at least the top
>> 32.
>>
>> However, for this year, there are some difficulties - of our own making, I
>> suppose, but we didn't see them coming. For Tour 1, we expected 8 European
>> teams, and took the obvious decision to extend T1 A to 24 teams. This will
>> enable us to run perhaps the best Tour event the UK has seen, but it has
>> some knock-on effects.
>>
>> We actually have 7 non-UK teams, but in fact 2 of them are intending to
>> play the whole tour, and thus are not really foreign teams at all under the
>> rules. In particular, they'd expect to hold their seed for T2. So instead of
>> the planned 16 UK and 8 Euro teams, we actually have 19 fully-fledged tour
>> teams at T1 A. Thus, in order to have 3 promoted from the B-tour for T2,
>> we'd have to relegate 6 teams. That's clearly too many.
>>
>> Reducing the number promoted is also not appealing, since T1 is not
>> guaranteed to be well-seeded. And in order to have just our normal 3
>> relegated, we'd have to promote no-one at all.
>>
>> The possibility of making A-tour 2 larger is unfair on the TD for the
>> C-tour 2 and Women's who would lose 4 teams' cash - significant money.
>>
>> So we've taken the decision that Tour 2 (with A&B co-located) will be a
>> 32-team format with some crossing over possible around what would normally
>> be the A-tour and B-tour boundary. This will give all the teams the chance
>> to find their level. The top 8 will of course remain peer-pooled - this is
>> an issue around the 16/17 barrier, and we don't want or need to change
>> things for the top teams.
>>
>> There is also a similar problem with B&C tour 1 - only 13 teams can get
>> into that top 32 for T2, and the same things apply to promotion and
>> relegation as above. To get 3 C-tour teams promoted, we have to relegate 6.
>> And that means those 6 miss out on playing with the top 32 at T2 and go to a
>> different venue, which is a big thing.
>>
>> So again, we have taken the decision to remove some boundaries from Tour 1
>> B&C. There will be a top 8 (peer-pooled), a middle 16 in 4 pools of 4
>> (across the important 9-24 bracket that determines getting into the top 32
>> for T2) and a bottom 12, followed by the chance to crossover between these
>> brackets.
>>
>> Hopefully that all makes sense. And hopefully the big tournament with all
>> those non-UK teams will be so excellent that it's all worth it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Benji
>>
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