Thanks Si,

That goes a long way to explaining the excellent vision the UKU does have.
I look forward to Benji's part.


Scraggy,



On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:22 AM, UKU Admin <[email protected]> wrote:

> Phil and BD
>
> Thanks for your email - its a really good point.  Some action:
>
> 1. You spurred me into writing down the outcome of some work that was done
> last year about UKU priorities.  I put it on an area of the UKU website that
> is laughably called my blog.  I knew that idea would get me into trouble.
>  Anyway...
>
> My blog is here:
> http://www.ukultimate.com/blogs/si_hill
>
> I've also copy & pasted the text of this latest article into this email -
> see below.
>
> 2. Benji will be publishing a document later today that outlines how the
> changes we've planned for the National Championships will work - at least
> specifically talking about how Regionals will be handled.
>
> 3. This seems like a good moment to say that a team led by Andy Kayley in
> Southampton will be running Nationals 2010 in Southampton (at the venue used
> for EUC 2007 amongst other things) - but that we have been discussing an
> arrangement where that team will also run Nationals at the same venue on a
> similar date in 2011 and 2012.  HOWEVER - Beach Worlds 2011 has kind of
> scuppered those plans for 2011, and so disappointingly we don't quite have
> 2011 and 2012 Nationals nailed down yet - but we are actively working on it
> at the moment.
>
> 4. To anyone: would you consider helping to re-instate a monthly member
> update email?  If so please let me know.
>
> Thanks
>
> Si
>
>
> "UKU Priorities 2009-2012"
>
> Apologies for the grand-sounding title.  Some time ago, the Board went
> through a process of reviewing what *UKU* should be about, and what our
> goals should be.  In the interests of responding to Phil Richardson's very
> good point about "there's not enough information about what *UK Ultimate* is
> doing" (sent to Britdisc 7th June 2010) here is a quick summary of those
> goals.  There have been a couple of aborted attempts to produce something
> more polished...
>
> In a nutshell, the process we went through was to consider all the
> different people that come into contact with Ultimate in the UK: mostly
> players of course; but also coaches, would-be spectators, *UKU *staff &
> volunteers, school teachers, and so on.  We also split the players group
> into "social", "competitive" and "elite" without worrying a great deal about
> exactly where to draw the line between those groups.  We then attempted to
> look at Ultimate through the eyes of those groups, and list out and
> prioritise their "requirements".  Finally we took those lists and did some
> work to consolidate them - in particular picking out the areas that seemed
> important to multiple groups.  I think its fair to say we also put more
> weight behind the requirements of the player-groups.
>
> The outcome was that *UK Ultimate* would (broadly) try to work to the
> following priorities until reviewing the situation again towards the end of
> 2012.  Its worth noting that we've been trying to follow these priorities
> since 2009 actually.
>
>    - Player growth
>    - Localized/regional competitions
>    - Coaching
>       - Cross-train teachers and community coaches
>       - L1/L2 -> all existing clubs
>    - Stretching the top level -> better support for international
>    competitors
>    - Lead player debate around SOTG
>    - Participant, coach, organiser safety
>    - Sustainable staff and volunteer organisation
>
> One thing we recognised was that we really really needed to agree that some
> areas would receive less attention even though that would cause tension and
> problems.  Its also obvious to say that some of the things that are not in
> the list still have to happen anyway - and this tends to be my biggest
> challenge when trying to live to those priorities.  So - things that are
> evidently not there but still need and get attention:
>
>    - Existing domestic competition structure (in particular The *UKU*
>     Tour)
>    - There is nothing about Indoor or Beach Ultimate
>    - No emphasis on pro-active promotion unless it obviously helps player
>    or growth or perhaps sponsorship for GB
>    - Nothing about overhauling the website, or improving
>    member-communications!  Although I'm not doing a great job of communicating
>    broadly, I do spend a lot of time in discussions (by email and phone) with
>    all sorts of players and *UKU* members that contact "the office".
>
> So how are we doing against the priorities?  Hmm.  I'd say mostly OK, could
> do better.  And I'll commit to talking about each of those priorities in
> this blog over the next few weeks...
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Phil Richardson 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Benji,
>>
>> May I congratulate you and every one working hard on all players behalf to
>> keep the Tour at the forefront of the development of competitive Ultimate
>> in
>> the UK.
>>
>> Could I ask that you and the committee working on this to offer some
>> enlightenment on where this might lead to next year.  Perhaps you could
>> have
>> a statement of the intended changes or a draft of ideas ready for all the
>> members of the UKU by the end of this season?
>>
>> I respect that there are a lot of volunteer hours going in here (and admit
>> that I do not wish to step up to the plate on Tour scheduling) but I do
>> think we have reach a point where our national organisation needs to start
>> thinking 2 - 3 years ahead to be fair to the members.  We are beginning to
>> reach a point where by the networks disseminating the information from the
>> UKU are extending quickly but the flow of information is not increasing.
>>  I
>> say this because I find an increasing number of players with Tour
>> experience
>> that are not on BD and do not read the UKU Updates.
>>
>> I would like to note I do appreciate the current changes going to to draw
>> the European teams over to the UK and I see UKU making great gains in its
>> organisation and structure.  So please carry on but plan and communicate a
>> little further ahead.
>>
>>
>>
>> Scraggy
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 10:10 AM, UKU Director of Competitions <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Just a reminder that the Birmingham venue will host the top 32 teams for
>> > Tour 2, meaning all those who played T1 in London (except the 5
>> > non-returning European teams) and the top 13 teams from Bishop's Cleeve.
>> > Other teams, and Women's, will be in Burton.
>> >
>> > I don't imagine there will be drop-outs at that top level, but if any
>> team
>> > amongst that top 32 is not intending to attend T2, please get in touch
>> very
>> > very soon so that we can bump someone up.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Benji
>> >
>> >
>> > UKU Director of Competitions wrote:
>> >
>> >> BD,
>> >>
>> >> A note about tournament formats for this season, and an explanation.
>> >> Long-winded no doubt, but you should see the amount of discussion
>> that's
>> >> gone into this.
>> >>
>> >> The competitions committee are very much behind the idea of keeping a
>> >> separate identity for the A,B and C tour - it seems to us that most
>> people's
>> >> imaginations have been caught by the divisional structure and that most
>> >> people refer to themselves as 'an A tour team' or 'a B tour team' and
>> so on.
>> >> The divisions also allow simple schedules to be written for at least
>> the top
>> >> 32.
>> >>
>> >> However, for this year, there are some difficulties - of our own
>> making, I
>> >> suppose, but we didn't see them coming. For Tour 1, we expected 8
>> European
>> >> teams, and took the obvious decision to extend T1 A to 24 teams. This
>> will
>> >> enable us to run perhaps the best Tour event the UK has seen, but it
>> has
>> >> some knock-on effects.
>> >>
>> >> We actually have 7 non-UK teams, but in fact 2 of them are intending to
>> >> play the whole tour, and thus are not really foreign teams at all under
>> the
>> >> rules. In particular, they'd expect to hold their seed for T2. So
>> instead of
>> >> the planned 16 UK and 8 Euro teams, we actually have 19 fully-fledged
>> tour
>> >> teams at T1 A. Thus, in order to have 3 promoted from the B-tour for
>> T2,
>> >> we'd have to relegate 6 teams. That's clearly too many.
>> >>
>> >> Reducing the number promoted is also not appealing, since T1 is not
>> >> guaranteed to be well-seeded. And in order to have just our normal 3
>> >> relegated, we'd have to promote no-one at all.
>> >>
>> >> The possibility of making A-tour 2 larger is unfair on the TD for the
>> >> C-tour 2 and Women's who would lose 4 teams' cash - significant money.
>> >>
>> >> So we've taken the decision that Tour 2 (with A&B co-located) will be a
>> >> 32-team format with some crossing over possible around what would
>> normally
>> >> be the A-tour and B-tour boundary. This will give all the teams the
>> chance
>> >> to find their level. The top 8 will of course remain peer-pooled - this
>> is
>> >> an issue around the 16/17 barrier, and we don't want or need to change
>> >> things for the top teams.
>> >>
>> >> There is also a similar problem with B&C tour 1 - only 13 teams can get
>> >> into that top 32 for T2, and the same things apply to promotion and
>> >> relegation as above. To get 3 C-tour teams promoted, we have to
>> relegate 6.
>> >> And that means those 6 miss out on playing with the top 32 at T2 and go
>> to a
>> >> different venue, which is a big thing.
>> >>
>> >> So again, we have taken the decision to remove some boundaries from
>> Tour 1
>> >> B&C. There will be a top 8 (peer-pooled), a middle 16 in 4 pools of 4
>> >> (across the important 9-24 bracket that determines getting into the top
>> 32
>> >> for T2) and a bottom 12, followed by the chance to crossover between
>> these
>> >> brackets.
>> >>
>> >> Hopefully that all makes sense. And hopefully the big tournament with
>> all
>> >> those non-UK teams will be so excellent that it's all worth it.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Benji
>> >>
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