Hi Samuel,

Oh, I was thinking at a higher user-level (ecosystem == desktop environment, 
KDE, GNOME or otherwise). 

The main daily aggravation with both the GNOME and KDE platforms are, in no 
particular order:

1) The menus: layout, complexity and number of useless options (for 
sight-impaired users)
2) The number of non-compliant programs, which you only ever find out by 
banging your head against the wall in frustration
3) Incomplete and inconsistent implementation in the better aps
4) Configuration
- GNOME settings are considerably better than KDE, but are still really really 
difficult to navigate, and the lack of easily edited text files make it 
nightmarish for the uninitiated (and I am not that uninitiated); as an old-time 
KDE user, I had an understanding of which text files to edit, but I am out of 
date, and having that information laid out on install would be fabulous (simple 
things ...)

Obviously the X/Wayland issue complicates things further. 

I hope that is a bit clearer.

Best,

Isabel




    

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On Tue, May 06, 2025 at 11:03:29AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Isabel Ruffell, le mar. 06 mai 2025 09:34:02 +0100, a ecrit:
> > but is there any way of getting GNOME and KDE to implement an accessibility 
> > mode which makes it easier to get at what we need, but exists within the 
> > same eco-system?
> 
> What do you call ecosystem? Do you mean X vs wayland? AT-SPI is already
> this. But some parts of accessibility support are inherently tied to the
> X/Wayland ecosystem, such as getting the mouse position and such.
> 
> Samuel
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