On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 1:14 PM, John Yeary <johnye...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am not sure about the JKoala project. I would like to push more for > getting Apple to contribute to OpenJDK and donate their Aqua bits as open > source, or as a binary plug. > > In response to 10.7 or 10.8 not coming with Java, I don't want to put my > faith in it happening. I would rather start working on controlling my > destiny now. > That's why last weekend I tried to get OpenJDK to build on my Mac and it works pretty well (other than a minor X11 glitch). I need to find some spare time to play with OpenJDK6 (it was 7 that I got working) but in the end it wasn't that difficult - just too many differing sets of instructions on the net which confused things. Anyhow, at least I know I wouldn't have a problem if they did remove it in 10.7 or 10.8 > > John > > > On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Sam Pullara <s...@sampullara.com> wrote: > >> Why do people think that Java won't be available under Lion. I fully >> expect it to come installed. They have marked it as *deprecated* rather than >> *optional*. Perhaps it might be missing from 10.8 but I doubt it. >> >> Sam >> >> On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:09 PM, Rob Ross wrote: >> >> > See here: >> > >> > http://jkoala.org/ >> > >> > >> > This so far represents the best possibility of actually making this >> happen! :) >> > >> > And yes, I've donated 50 EUR to the cause, and intend to contribute >> software development as well. >> > >> > >> > Rob >> > >> > On Oct 26, 2010, at 6:48 PM, Lussier, Denis wrote: >> > >> >> It's my personal goal that it be run well behaved Java client (swing >> >> and swk) and server apps (tomcat, jboss, etc, etc) perfectly. In >> >> short, any 100% pure java app will run. We must keep in mind that >> >> older versions of Eclipse for OSX are hardcoded to use the built in >> >> Apple JVM's and ignore the JAVA_HOME Env variable. In a phase 2 we >> >> could get ther IcedTea extensions built on the Web so we get the >> >> Webstart. Stuff and other goodies. >> >> >> >> On 10/26/10, MiB <digital.disc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> 24 okt 2010 kl. 13.56 skrev Lussier, Denis: >> >>> >> >>>> I believe that getting IcedTea to work on an OSX port is a great >> >>>> thing, but... I I think this should be an extended goal that's >> >>>> tackled first for OpenJDK 7 (since it already builds on OSX). >> >>>> >> >>>> I think the milestones toward getting a robust OSX release for >> >>>> OpenJDK 6 should be: >> >>>> >> >>>> 1.) Get a baseline build of the latest OpenJDK 6 code bundle >> >>>> (currently b20) to build on OSX 10.5 Intel in 32-bit mode. There >> >>>> should be a minimal set of patches applied to the make files and >> >>>> source code similar to what is currently done for OpenJDK 7 BSD port. >> >>>> >> >>>> 2.) Get the above build working as a universal binary. >> >>> What are the possible pitfalls of making it build and then run on PPC? >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> 3.) Make sure the above Universal binary runs really well on 10.4 >> >>>> PPC thru 10.6 Intel. >> >>> I assume this means "run well in a compatible fashion on 10.4 Intel/ >> >>> PPC, 10,5 intel/PPC as well 10.6 Intel". Perhaps obvious, but I just >> >>> want to make it that. :-) >> >>> >> >>> The problem I've had with Landon Fullers Open JDK 7 2009 beta- >> >>> compilation – Thanks Landon! – is I'm not sure how to make it a full >> >>> citizen. I've reset JAVA_HOME pointing to it and for some apps, like >> >>> CLI apps, this works fine and others, like Eclipse or specifically >> >>> Springsource Tool Suite refuse to run on it. Netbeans accepted it as a >> >>> target VM, but I haven't been able to start up Netbeans with on it. >> >>> >> >>> This leads me to the issue what distributions the Mac openJDK should >> >>> be compatible with. Is it the openJDK on other platforms or the OS X >> >>> java implementation style? In 10.6 it's easy to add additional JVM's, >> >>> but seems less so in 10.5. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> /MB >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > -- > John Yeary > -- > http://javaevangelist.blogspot.com > http://www.johnyeary.com > > "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even > though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who > neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight > that knows not victory nor defeat." > -- Theodore Roosevelt > > > >
