Hi all, First of all, sorry if this mail breaks your in-thread mail client formatting, but I just subscribed to the list.
I was redirected here from a comment on my blog: http://www.jroller.com/neugens/entry/java_on_mac I was asked few times during the last couple of years how feasible would be to have a native OSX port of the AWT peers, and I noticed that someone proposed the JKoala project, so let me cite what is written on their web site: """ How long should porting AWT / Swing take? I estimate the porting task will take between one and two years. Depending on other developers who might join JKoala project meanwhile, this delay could be greatly reduced. In all cases, expect regular news and test versions to let you follow JKoala development. It's the way open source communities generally work. """ I completely agree that a full port, full in the sense of complete compatibility etc... including the native look and feel will probably take more than one year and a little less than two, but we do have some short cuts that will enable us a faster and usable implementation, giving us enough time to actually refine all the details. As someone may know, I am the maintainer of the Caciocavallo project, we won the OpenJDK challenge (actually, we classified 3th place) by proposing a full refactoring of the AWT peers. Once finished, we developed a full AWT stack on top of Swing. The port is finished and feature complete, although there are bugs of course. We use it internally and we have all sort of peers for Cacio, you can find some example on those blogs: http://www.jroller.com/neugens/entry/cacio_on_photon http://www.jroller.com/neugens/entry/cacio_goes_realtime_was_a http://www.jroller.com/neugens/entry/cacio_on_qnx_part_ii http://www.jroller.com/neugens/entry/mixing_of_awt_and_swing http://www.jroller.com/neugens/entry/a_pipeline_a_day http://rkennke.wordpress.com/2009/01/14/awesome-stuff/ http://rkennke.wordpress.com/2008/12/18/caciocavallo-architecture-overview/ http://rkennke.wordpress.com/2008/12/18/caciocavallo-managed-windows/ Plus some post I can't find about Cacio on Microware OS 9 :) [1] and Windows CE that we showcased at JavaOne this year. An OpenJDK based VM with working Swing and AWT (and Java2D) has been delivered, or is in the process of being delivered, on a multitude of operating systems, with good performances, despite the huge class library and the fact that most of those platforms are mobile. I don't have any real experience of OSX coding (but once again, I didn't have any previous experience on those funny platform as well), but I'm sure that an initial port (provided that the JDK itself already compiles and works, perhaps with the X11 based peers), will only require few weeks of work (assuming real work). I would like to jump in and help, although I don't have a Mac yet. Cacio needs to be fixed to be used on the latest code base, because we use an older drop of the OpenJDK code, but I expect this to be quite trivial (and definitely something I can do on my Linux machine). I don't know if there is any way I can help further and I have some constraints (if you read my blog, you'll know about those shortly), but if you are interested in sponsoring such a porting effort somehow, I'll be very help to help. Cheers, Mario [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS-9 -- pgp key: http://subkeys.pgp.net/ PGP Key ID: 80F240CF Fingerprint: BA39 9666 94EC 8B73 27FA FC7C 4086 63E3 80F2 40CF Proud GNU Classpath developer: http://www.classpath.org/ Read About us at: http://planet.classpath.org OpenJDK: http://openjdk.java.net/projects/caciocavallo/ Please, support open standards: http://endsoftpatents.org/
