Zitat von Massimiliano Maini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Hi Achim, I guess you lostpasr of Bob's message ... what are 1D, 2C, 2D ? Can you repost Bob's original message ?..
Yes, you're right. Somehow I mixed up his html e-mail. The whole message is below now.
Ciao Achim *************************************************** Here is a summary of some of the weird behavior I?ve noticed when doing rollouts involving noise. I suspect it may just be an issue of something being done in a wrong order. I used a 1 point match, zero skill position so the weakening of either player and the clicking of cubeful on or off should not matter but it does. It is the latest build which I just downloaded today. In particular: Comparing 1A to 1C shows that if cubeful is on then weakening one player can influence the result. Comparing 2C to 2D shows that if cubeful is off then determinsitc or nondeterministic noise makes a difference. However this is not the case if cubeful is on as can be seen from comparing 1C to 1D. On a related issue it would be nice for the rollout results to give more data. For example Whether the databases were being used, what type of noise was used, what MEQ was used. Basically every setting that is alterable seems like it should be included in the summary. Thanks for any help, Bob Koca Player 1 = bobk Orange checkers on bottom Player 0 = gnubg White checkers on top Rollout of 15 on ace vs. 15 on ace 1 point match with various settings: All use no variance reduction, 1296 trials, quasi random dice, no bearoff database, player 0 on roll, and seed = 1,000,000 1) Using CUBEFUL ON A) expert with cubeful eval checked vs expert with cubeful eval checked win% of .658951 and s.d of .013173 B) expert with cubeful eval off vs expert with cubeful eval off same as A C) advanced (.015 det noise and cubeful eval) vs expert win % of .592607 and s.d of .011854 D) Same as C except nondeterministic noise Same result. E) intermediate (.040 det noise and cubeful eval) vs. expert Same result. So just presence of some noise causes problem but amount of it doesn?t matter. But if both have it: F) Intermediate vs intermediate Win % of .683433 and s.d. .008376 G) advanced vs advanced Same as F 2) Using CUBEFUL OFF Same A ? D as above A) Same results as 1A B) Same results as 1B C) Same results as 1C D) Now .659162 with s.d. of .013812 (basically correct) _______________________________________________ Bug-gnubg mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
