https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=45863
MOB.COM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> changed:
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Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED
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--- Comment #10 from MOB.COM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2008-09-23 15:35:32 PST ---
(In reply to comment #9)
> Note that this is neither a user support forum, nor bugzilla @redhat.com.
>
> If there is a server already running or any of a host of issues applies,
> such as failing to uninstall RedHat provisioned httpd, you need to consult
> with your peers at the users list. This issue tracker is for bugs in the
> ASF httpd project source code, docs etc.
>
> RedHat uses a proprietary layout, not the ASF httpd project layout, so any
> issues with how RHEL resources are laid out is a RH issue.
>
Noted.
Note that this is not a Redhat only problem. There are over 1,000 search
results for all major Linux distros related to users getting this error,
yet there was nothing on it in ASF Bugzilla, so for starters, hopefully this
thread will provide a solution for anyone looking for info here in future.
And it can not be expected for users to know that the most widely used Linux
server distros - Redhat, CentOS, Fedora, use a proprietary layout, and not the
ASF httpd project layout.
In fact, Ubuntu, Debian, and Solaris servers also use /var/run/httpd.pid for
default Pidfile path, and not the ASF httpd project layout.
So this can be a very common problem across ALL major Linux distros, that is
confusing and time consuming to debug and fix for new users.
Would like to recommend simple improvements in how Apache handles it:
a) Immediately displaying users the error when they try to start the server:
e.g. "could not log pid to file /etc/httpd/run/httpd.pid"
Reason: Currently it only logs one instance of the above error into error_log
(at best case scenario) on the first attempt to start the server, following
attempts display the binding error, which new user will assume is the problem.
b) Informing users of ASF httpd project layout's default Pidfile path in the
httpd.conf
Reason: As noted above ALL major Linux distros - Redhat, CentOS, Fedora,
Ubuntu, Debian, Solaris use a default layout that is not the ASF httpd project
layout. So users who searched this ASF Bugzilla (pre this ticket), did not find
anything, after which they most likely searched the manuals and user support
forums of their distros, which all provided them with a Pidfile path that was
not of the ASF httpd project layout.
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