On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 05:33:11PM +0100, Benjamin Baier wrote: > >>>So we should take all our hardware mixers, and crank them to full > >>>volume right at boot time. > >>> > >>IMO, this is the best option. > Do you have a stereo system connected to your PC?
sure, one with a 250W amp > I would not > made this the default. Start low and if "you" want a loud default > setting, use mixerctl.conf > I was talking about raising initial hardware volume and lowering the initial software volume (current defaults are the opposite). I agree that it doesn't make sense to have everything cranked. This would allow more use-cases to be handled in software only, but may force those of us with noisy devices and alike (see tedu@ mail for more examples) to change the defaults by hand. Anyway there's no plan for this, and we must fix the volume keys (pckbd driver) before attempting to change the mixer and/or the defauts. > > > >I think there is a major disconnect here. The software level should > >control the hardware level. > > > >Or, this entire software layer should be removed. While the new mechanims > >is fancy, the old one worked right. > > > Sound volume controll is higly user specific, and it troubles me with > every OS I use. Especially if there is more than one sound > card attached (e.g. USB Headset on a Laptop). And then different > sound inputs (mostly software, firefox, media player, system sounds) > all coming in with different line levels (volumes)... in my experience systems with lots of sources and devices are better handled in software with all hardware levels set to 0dB. Single point of control, all sound cards look the same, etc... > > I would also like the up/down/mute keys actuating the hardware outputs. that makes sense in most cases. -- Alexandre
