On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 10:37:35PM +0100, Paul de Weerd wrote:

> [Redirecting to bugs@; adding otto@ to CC:]
> 
> Looks like there's another issue with the bootloader.  I've just
> upgrade to yesterday's snapshot (kern.version=OpenBSD 6.6-current
> (GENERIC.MP) #54: Sat Mar 14 20:03:42 MDT 2020), my Dell Optiplex 9020
> machine doesn't boot anymore again.  However, this time it still
> POSTs.  I get:
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Using drive 0, partition 3.
> Loading......
> _
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> So on an otherwise empty screen, first an empty line, then that text
> and the cursor is below that (the '_').  Since the machine still
> POSTs, I could simply do a PXE boot and in the pxeboot bootloader boot
> from sr0a:/bsd.
> 
> Note that I use softraid crypto for the root filesystem (FDE).
> 
> Anything else I can provide to help debug this?

Two questions:

How did you upgrade? 

Which version pf pxeboot did you load?

On my laptop I have FDE as well and I also got positive test results
from others so this does not seem to be a general probem with FDE.

        -Otto

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> OpenBSD 6.6-current (GENERIC.MP) #54: Sat Mar 14 20:03:42 MDT 2020
>     [email protected]:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
> real mem = 34243903488 (32657MB)
> avail mem = 33193500672 (31655MB)
> mpath0 at root
> scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets
> mainbus0 at root
> bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.7 @ 0xec410 (88 entries)
> bios0: vendor Dell Inc. version "A22" date 02/01/2018
> bios0: Dell Inc. OptiPlex 9020
> acpi0 at bios0: ACPI 5.0
> acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
> acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC FPDT SLIC LPIT SSDT SSDT SSDT HPET SSDT MCFG 
> SSDT ASF! DMAR
> acpi0: wakeup devices UAR1(S3) RP01(S4) PXSX(S4) PXSX(S4) PXSX(S4) RP05(S4) 
> PXSX(S4) PXSX(S4) PXSX(S4) PXSX(S4) GLAN(S4) EHC1(S3) EHC2(S3) XHC_(S4) 
> HDEF(S4) PEG0(S4) [...]
> acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
> acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee00000: PC-AT compat
> cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
> cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz, 3691.98 MHz, 06-3c-03
> cpu0: 
> FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,TSC_ADJUST,BMI1,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,SENSOR,ARAT,XSAVEOPT,MELTDOWN
> cpu0: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
> cpu0: smt 0, core 0, package 0
> mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 10 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges
> cpu0: apic clock running at 99MHz
> cpu0: mwait min=64, max=64, C-substates=0.2.1.2.4, IBE
> cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor)
> cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz, 3691.46 MHz, 06-3c-03
> cpu1: 
> FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,TSC_ADJUST,BMI1,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,SENSOR,ARAT,XSAVEOPT,MELTDOWN
> cpu1: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
> cpu1: smt 0, core 1, package 0
> cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 4 (application processor)
> cpu2: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz, 3691.46 MHz, 06-3c-03
> cpu2: 
> FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,TSC_ADJUST,BMI1,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,SENSOR,ARAT,XSAVEOPT,MELTDOWN
> cpu2: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
> cpu2: smt 0, core 2, package 0
> cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 6 (application processor)
> cpu3: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz, 3691.46 MHz, 06-3c-03
> cpu3: 
> FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,TSC_ADJUST,BMI1,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,SENSOR,ARAT,XSAVEOPT,MELTDOWN
> cpu3: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
> cpu3: smt 0, core 3, package 0
> ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 8 pa 0xfec00000, version 20, 24 pins
> acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
> acpimcfg0 at acpi0
> acpimcfg0: addr 0xf8000000, bus 0-63
> acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
> acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (RP01)
> acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (RP05)
> acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEG0)
> acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEG1)
> acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEG2)
> acpiec0 at acpi0: not present
> acpicpu0 at acpi0: C2(200@148 mwait.1@0x33), C1(1000@1 mwait.1), PSS
> acpicpu1 at acpi0: C2(200@148 mwait.1@0x33), C1(1000@1 mwait.1), PSS
> acpicpu2 at acpi0: C2(200@148 mwait.1@0x33), C1(1000@1 mwait.1), PSS
> acpicpu3 at acpi0: C2(200@148 mwait.1@0x33), C1(1000@1 mwait.1), PSS
> acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature is 105 degC
> acpitz1 at acpi0: critical temperature is 105 degC
> acpipci0 at acpi0 PCI0: 0x00000010 0x00000011 0x00000000
> acpicmos0 at acpi0
> acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB
> "PNP0C14" at acpi0 not configured
> acpivideo0 at acpi0: GFX0
> acpivout0 at acpivideo0: DD1F
> cpu0: using Broadwell MDS workaround
> cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 3691 MHz: speeds: 3401, 3400, 3200, 3000, 2800, 
> 2700, 2500, 2300, 2100, 1900, 1700, 1500, 1400, 1200, 1000, 800 MHz
> pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0
> pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel Core 4G Host" rev 0x06
> inteldrm0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel HD Graphics 4600" rev 0x06
> drm0 at inteldrm0
> inteldrm0: msi
> azalia0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 "Intel Core 4G HD Audio" rev 0x06: msi
> azalia0: No codecs found
> xhci0 at pci0 dev 20 function 0 "Intel 8 Series xHCI" rev 0x04: msi, xHCI 1.0
> usb0 at xhci0: USB revision 3.0
> uhub0 at usb0 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel xHCI root hub" rev 3.00/1.00 
> addr 1
> "Intel 8 Series MEI" rev 0x04 at pci0 dev 22 function 0 not configured
> puc0 at pci0 dev 22 function 3 "Intel 8 Series KT" rev 0x04: ports: 16 com
> com4 at puc0 port 0 apic 8 int 19: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
> com4: probed fifo depth: 0 bytes
> em0 at pci0 dev 25 function 0 "Intel I217-LM" rev 0x04: msi, address 
> b8:ca:3a:93:03:e8
> ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 "Intel 8 Series USB" rev 0x04: apic 8 int 16
> usb1 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
> uhub1 at usb1 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 
> addr 1
> azalia1 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 "Intel 8 Series HD Audio" rev 0x04: msi
> azalia1: codecs: Realtek/0x0280
> audio0 at azalia1
> ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 "Intel 8 Series PCIE" rev 0xd4
> pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
> ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 4 "Intel 8 Series PCIE" rev 0xd4: msi
> pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
> ahci0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "Marvell 88SE9128 AHCI" rev 0x20: msi, AHCI 1.2
> ahci0: port 7: 1.5Gb/s
> scsibus1 at ahci0: 32 targets
> uk0 at scsibus1 targ 7 lun 0: <Marvell, 91xx Config, 1.01>
> ehci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 "Intel 8 Series USB" rev 0x04: apic 8 int 23
> usb2 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0
> uhub2 at usb2 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 
> addr 1
> pcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 "Intel Q87 LPC" rev 0x04
> ahci1 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 "Intel 8 Series AHCI" rev 0x04: msi, AHCI 1.3
> ahci1: port 0: 6.0Gb/s
> ahci1: port 1: 1.5Gb/s
> ahci1: port 2: 6.0Gb/s
> scsibus2 at ahci1: 32 targets
> sd0 at scsibus2 targ 0 lun 0: <ATA, Samsung SSD 850, EMT0> 
> naa.5002538d41b86e4d
> sd0: 953869MB, 512 bytes/sector, 1953525168 sectors, thin
> cd0 at scsibus2 targ 1 lun 0: <HL-DT-ST, DVD+-RW GT80N, A103> removable
> sd1 at scsibus2 targ 2 lun 0: <ATA, WDC WD60EFRX-68L, 82.0> 
> naa.50014ee2b81f4111
> sd1: 5723166MB, 512 bytes/sector, 11721045168 sectors
> ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 "Intel 8 Series SMBus" rev 0x04: apic 8 int 
> 18
> iic0 at ichiic0
> spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 8GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-12800
> spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x51: 8GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-12800
> spdmem2 at iic0 addr 0x52: 8GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-12800
> spdmem3 at iic0 addr 0x53: 8GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-12800
> isa0 at pcib0
> isadma0 at isa0
> com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
> pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 irq 1 irq 12
> pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
> wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard
> pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
> spkr0 at pcppi0
> wbsio0 at isa0 port 0x2e/2 rev 0x00
> vmm0 at mainbus0: VMX/EPT (using slow L1TF mitigation)
> uhidev0 at uhub0 port 3 configuration 1 interface 0 "RDing TEMPERHUM1V1.2" 
> rev 2.00/0.01 addr 2
> uhidev0: iclass 3/1, 1 report id
> ukbd0 at uhidev0 reportid 1: 8 variable keys, 5 key codes
> wskbd1 at ukbd0 mux 1
> uhidev1 at uhub0 port 3 configuration 1 interface 1 "RDing TEMPERHUM1V1.2" 
> rev 2.00/0.01 addr 2
> uhidev1: iclass 3/1
> ugold0 at uhidev1
> uhub3 at uhub0 port 4 configuration 1 interface 0 "VIA Labs, Inc. USB2.0 Hub" 
> rev 2.10/d.a0 addr 3
> uhidev2 at uhub3 port 4 configuration 1 interface 0 "Metadot - Das Keyboard 
> Das Keyboard" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 4
> uhidev2: iclass 3/1
> ukbd1 at uhidev2: 8 variable keys, 6 key codes
> wskbd2 at ukbd1 mux 1
> uhidev3 at uhub3 port 4 configuration 1 interface 1 "Metadot - Das Keyboard 
> Das Keyboard" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 4
> uhidev3: iclass 3/0, 3 report ids
> uhid0 at uhidev3 reportid 1: input=0, output=0, feature=7
> uhid1 at uhidev3 reportid 2: input=1, output=0, feature=0
> uhid2 at uhidev3 reportid 3: input=3, output=0, feature=0
> uhub4 at uhub0 port 5 configuration 1 interface 0 "Texas Instruments product 
> 0x8044" rev 2.10/1.00 addr 5
> uhub5 at uhub0 port 6 configuration 1 interface 0 "Texas Instruments product 
> 0x8044" rev 2.10/1.00 addr 6
> uvideo0 at uhub0 port 9 configuration 1 interface 0 "Logitech QuickCam Pro 
> 9000" rev 2.00/0.08 addr 7
> video0 at uvideo0
> uaudio0 at uhub0 port 9 configuration 1 interface 3 "Logitech QuickCam Pro 
> 9000" rev 2.00/0.08 addr 7
> uaudio0: class v1, high-speed, sync, channels: 0 play, 1 rec, 2 ctls
> audio1 at uaudio0
> uhidev4 at uhub0 port 10 configuration 1 interface 0 "Logitech USB Gaming 
> Mouse" rev 2.00/46.00 addr 8
> uhidev4: iclass 3/1
> ums0 at uhidev4: 16 buttons, Z and W dir
> wsmouse0 at ums0 mux 0
> uhidev5 at uhub0 port 10 configuration 1 interface 1 "Logitech USB Gaming 
> Mouse" rev 2.00/46.00 addr 8
> uhidev5: iclass 3/0, 17 report ids
> uhid3 at uhidev5 reportid 16: input=6, output=6, feature=0
> uhid4 at uhidev5 reportid 17: input=19, output=19, feature=0
> ugold0: 2 sensors type si7006 (temperature and humidity)
> uhub6 at uhub0 port 21 configuration 1 interface 0 "VIA Labs, Inc. USB3.0 
> Hub" rev 3.00/d.a1 addr 9
> uhub7 at uhub1 port 1 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel Rate Matching Hub" 
> rev 2.00/0.04 addr 2
> uhub8 at uhub2 port 1 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel Rate Matching Hub" 
> rev 2.00/0.04 addr 2
> vscsi0 at root
> scsibus3 at vscsi0: 256 targets
> softraid0 at root
> scsibus4 at softraid0: 256 targets
> sd2 at scsibus4 targ 1 lun 0: <OPENBSD, SR CRYPTO, 006>
> sd2: 953866MB, 512 bytes/sector, 1953519473 sectors
> root on sd2a (a0b80508b6693ba1.a) swap on sd2b dump on sd2b
> inteldrm0: 1920x1080, 32bpp
> wsdisplay0 at inteldrm0 mux 1: console (std, vt100 emulation), using wskbd0
> wskbd1: connecting to wsdisplay0
> wskbd2: connecting to wsdisplay0
> wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (std, vt100 emulation)
> wskbd1: disconnecting from wsdisplay0
> wskbd1 detached
> ukbd0 detached
> uhidev0 detached
> ugold0 detached
> uhidev1 detached
> uhidev0 at uhub0 port 3 configuration 1 interface 0 "RDing TEMPERHUM1V1.2" 
> rev 2.00/0.01 addr 2
> uhidev0: iclass 3/1, 1 report id
> ukbd0 at uhidev0 reportid 1: 8 variable keys, 5 key codes
> wskbd1 at ukbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
> uhidev1 at uhub0 port 3 configuration 1 interface 1 "RDing TEMPERHUM1V1.2" 
> rev 2.00/0.01 addr 2
> uhidev1: iclass 3/1
> ugold0 at uhidev1
> ugold0: 2 sensors type si7006 (temperature and humidity)
> uhub4 detached
> uhub5 detached
> uhub4 at uhub0 port 5 configuration 1 interface 0 "Texas Instruments product 
> 0x8044" rev 2.10/1.00 addr 5
> uhub5 at uhub0 port 6 configuration 1 interface 0 "Texas Instruments product 
> 0x8044" rev 2.10/1.00 addr 6
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 09, 2020 at 07:28:10PM +0100, Paul de Weerd wrote:
> | On Mon, Mar 09, 2020 at 06:47:10PM +0100, Sebastien Marie wrote:
> | | On Mon, Mar 09, 2020 at 04:51:00PM +0000, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> | | > On 09 Mar 2020, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
> | | > > On Mon, Mar 09, 2020 at 03:56:53PM +0000, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> | | > > 
> | | > > > This discussion is very interesting. The same thing happened to me
> | | > > > on 6 March, when after completing the upgrade my Dell Optiplex 3020
> | | > > > refused to boot. I assumed it was a hardware failure and spent the
> | | > > > next three days bringing up an older Acer n460 which the Dell had
> | | > > > replaced.
> | | 
> | | yes, it looks like a hardware failure.
> | 
> | Indeed it did :)  My machine would not POST anymore (Dell Optiplex
> | 9020; dmesg at the end)
> | 
> | | in my case, 4 hosts with the same motherboard model failed at the same 
> time (I
> | | ran sysupgrade via ansible), so hardware failure was a bit excluded.
> | 
> | I only have this one machine that showed the behaviour.  Several VMs,
> | my gateway and my laptop worked fine so I didn't really tie it to the
> | bootloader changes (especially since the machine didn't POST).  I
> | couldn't boot from any other medium as long as the boot disk (an SSD)
> | was connected; my conclusion was that a failed SSD prevented the
> | system from POSTing (something I've seen in the past with failed
> | HDDs).
> | 
> | | > > > I don't have the facility at present to put the disk in another
> | | > > > machine so it looks like I'm stuck. 
> | | 
> | | I agree it could be difficult. If the disk is plugged, bios stuck. If the 
> disk
> | | is unplugged, bios is fine, but you can't modify the disk data.
> | | 
> | | As sthen@ said, you could try to change bios setting to make the bios to 
> not
> | | look at the disk. I dunno if it would work or not.
> | 
> | I played around with that a little bit, but didn't get to a working
> | machine.
> | 
> | | Alternatively, if you disk support hotplugging (sata disk should), try to
> | | connect the disk after the bios started could help. If so, I would try to 
> plug
> | | it as soon as possible after bios init.
> | 
> | That was a bit of a scary option for me :)
> | 
> | | Depending your configuration, you could also try to use USB/SATA or 
> USB/IDE
> | | adapter (depending your disk), in order to plug the disk after bios init. 
> For
> | | me, I had problem with this method too: when my sata disk is plugged in 
> sata
> | | connector it is showed with 512 bytes/sector, whereas with USB/SATA 
> connector it
> | | showed with 4096 bytes/sector and so disklabel is incoherent.
> | 
> | In the end, after reading Otto's mail about reverting his changes, I
> | connected the SSD from my not-booting machine to my laptop and
> | upgraded the snapshot on it.  That allowed my desktop machine to boot
> | properly again.
> | 
> | I've seen Otto's commit message from earlier today, so I will test out
> | the next snap on my machine tomorrow.  At least now I know not to jump
> | to conclusions about failing hardware :)
> | 
> | Thanks to Otto for his work on this area; looking forward to running
> | my machine on all-ffs2.
> | 
> | Cheers,
> | 
> | Paul
> | 
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