On 10/11/12 9:09 AM, matchew wrote:
Understand. But why still when ENABLE_FULL_DEBUG_SYMBOLS is set to 0 these files are generated?

What type of build are you doing? The ENABLE_FULL_DEBUG_SYMBOLS
flag only disables the feature for "product bits" builds. For a
JDK build that is an "OPT" build. For a HotSpot build that is a
"product" build.

Dan



2012/10/11 Daniel D. Daugherty <daniel.daughe...@oracle.com <mailto:daniel.daughe...@oracle.com>>

    On 10/11/12 8:50 AM, matchew wrote:
    what about openjdk builds used for example by ubuntu package
    manager (default repos)? these builds do not have these debug
    files (*.diz) at all.

    I don't know how Ubuntu builds the OpenJDK repos so I can't
    really comment on why those builds don't have debug info files.
    Downstream projects can change the default settings and several
    of the downstream Linux project have enabled even more debug
    info in their builds.


    If i am not considering jvm/jdk native code debugging is it safe
    to just remove them all?

    It's your build. If you don't think you need the debug info, then
    you can remove it.

    Dan



    2012/10/11 Daniel D. Daugherty <daniel.daughe...@oracle.com
    <mailto:daniel.daughe...@oracle.com>>

        On 10/11/12 3:21 AM, Seán Coffey wrote:
        Moving this off discuss mailing list to build-dev.

        Why is ENABLE_FULL_DEBUG_SYMBOLS being set to 1 for many
        product builds now ? It slows down the build and creates
        increased bundle size even though the majority of users do
        not require this functionality.

        The Full Debug Symbols feature will eventually be enabled for all
        OSes for which Oracle generates bits. I think MacOS X is the last
        platform and that work is tracked by:

            7165611 3/3 implement Full Debug Symbols on MacOS X

        The default setting for ENABLE_FULL_DEBUG_SYMBOLS is "1"
        (enabled)
        because the Full Debug Symbols feature is intentionally
        enabled in
        all promoted bits for diagnosibility and debuggability. If FDS is
        not enabled when the promoted bits are built, then the debug info
        generated by a rebuild of *exactly the same source* with FDS
        enabled
        cannot be (reliably) used with the promoted bits.

        You might be saying:

            That's fine for promoted bits, but what about the rest of us?

        The answer there is actually simple. We want our developer
        private
        builds and automated system builds, e.g., JPRT, to match what
        Release
        Engineering builds. We don't want RE to be surprised by an
        integration
        that builds fine when FDS is disabled only to blow up when FDS is
        enabled.

        Similarly, we also don't want SQE/SQA to be surprised by
        different
        test results with bits built by RE versus bits built with FDS
        disabled,
        e.g., JPRT. Enabling "debug info" in a build changes the compiler
        optimizations and that changes the bits in the binary. Those
        changes
        in the binary might mask a bug that only shows up after RE
        has built
        with FDS enabled. Conversely, if you disable FDS in your
        private build,
        you might end up chasing a bug that only reproduces in your
        private
        build and doesn't reproduce in an FDS enabled build.


        Could we consider flipping the default for
        ENABLE_FULL_DEBUG_SYMBOLS to 0 ? (like I've done for all my
        build scripts?)

        For the reasons I stated above, no we won't change the
        default for
        ENABLE_FULL_DEBUG_SYMBOLS to "0" (disabled) unless Oracle changes
        the way that promoted bits are built.

        You are welcome to disable the feature in your private builds
        which
        is why I added the ENABLE_FULL_DEBUG_SYMBOLS flag. However,
        please
        remember that any testing that you do with those bits won't
        necessarily
        match testing done with the official promoted bits.

        Dan



        regards,
        Sean.

        -------- Original Message --------
        Subject:        Re: How to decrease size of j2sdk_image
        Date:   Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:57:46 +0800
        From:   Weijun Wang <weijun.w...@oracle.com>
        <mailto:weijun.w...@oracle.com>
        To:     disc...@openjdk.java.net <mailto:disc...@openjdk.java.net>



        You can try set ENABLE_FULL_DEBUG_SYMBOLS to 0.

        -Max

        On 10/11/2012 02:38 PM, matchew wrote:
        >
        >  After successful openJDK7 build (Ubuntu 12.04) i have found that
        >  'j2sdk-image' has 240MB. More than 100MB belongs to one directory:
        >  openjdk7/jre/lib/amd64
        >
        >  Can anyone explain me why it is so big? For example in openJDK7 
installed
        >  via package manager this folder has only 18MB
        >
        >  Is there any way to decrease its size?
        >
        >  Thanks in advance
        >  --
        >  Mateusz
        >





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