How are you invoking your build?

Dan


On 10/11/12 9:19 AM, matchew wrote:
i believe i am doing full build - including jdk, hotspot, etc. So how can i switch off debug symbols in jdk builds?

2012/10/11 Daniel D. Daugherty <daniel.daughe...@oracle.com <mailto:daniel.daughe...@oracle.com>>

    On 10/11/12 9:09 AM, matchew wrote:
    Understand. But why still when ENABLE_FULL_DEBUG_SYMBOLS is set
    to 0 these files are generated?

    What type of build are you doing? The ENABLE_FULL_DEBUG_SYMBOLS
    flag only disables the feature for "product bits" builds. For a
    JDK build that is an "OPT" build. For a HotSpot build that is a
    "product" build.

    Dan



    2012/10/11 Daniel D. Daugherty <daniel.daughe...@oracle.com
    <mailto:daniel.daughe...@oracle.com>>

        On 10/11/12 8:50 AM, matchew wrote:
        what about openjdk builds used for example by ubuntu package
        manager (default repos)? these builds do not have these
        debug files (*.diz) at all.

        I don't know how Ubuntu builds the OpenJDK repos so I can't
        really comment on why those builds don't have debug info files.
        Downstream projects can change the default settings and several
        of the downstream Linux project have enabled even more debug
        info in their builds.


        If i am not considering jvm/jdk native code debugging is it
        safe to just remove them all?

        It's your build. If you don't think you need the debug info, then
        you can remove it.

        Dan



        2012/10/11 Daniel D. Daugherty <daniel.daughe...@oracle.com
        <mailto:daniel.daughe...@oracle.com>>

            On 10/11/12 3:21 AM, Seán Coffey wrote:
            Moving this off discuss mailing list to build-dev.

            Why is ENABLE_FULL_DEBUG_SYMBOLS being set to 1 for
            many product builds now ? It slows down the build and
            creates increased bundle size even though the majority
            of users do not require this functionality.

            The Full Debug Symbols feature will eventually be
            enabled for all
            OSes for which Oracle generates bits. I think MacOS X is
            the last
            platform and that work is tracked by:

                7165611 3/3 implement Full Debug Symbols on MacOS X

            The default setting for ENABLE_FULL_DEBUG_SYMBOLS is "1"
            (enabled)
            because the Full Debug Symbols feature is intentionally
            enabled in
            all promoted bits for diagnosibility and debuggability.
            If FDS is
            not enabled when the promoted bits are built, then the
            debug info
            generated by a rebuild of *exactly the same source* with
            FDS enabled
            cannot be (reliably) used with the promoted bits.

            You might be saying:

                That's fine for promoted bits, but what about the
            rest of us?

            The answer there is actually simple. We want our
            developer private
            builds and automated system builds, e.g., JPRT, to match
            what Release
            Engineering builds. We don't want RE to be surprised by
            an integration
            that builds fine when FDS is disabled only to blow up
            when FDS is
            enabled.

            Similarly, we also don't want SQE/SQA to be surprised by
            different
            test results with bits built by RE versus bits built
            with FDS disabled,
            e.g., JPRT. Enabling "debug info" in a build changes the
            compiler
            optimizations and that changes the bits in the binary.
            Those changes
            in the binary might mask a bug that only shows up after
            RE has built
            with FDS enabled. Conversely, if you disable FDS in your
            private build,
            you might end up chasing a bug that only reproduces in
            your private
            build and doesn't reproduce in an FDS enabled build.


            Could we consider flipping the default for
            ENABLE_FULL_DEBUG_SYMBOLS to 0 ? (like I've done for
            all my build scripts?)

            For the reasons I stated above, no we won't change the
            default for
            ENABLE_FULL_DEBUG_SYMBOLS to "0" (disabled) unless
            Oracle changes
            the way that promoted bits are built.

            You are welcome to disable the feature in your private
            builds which
            is why I added the ENABLE_FULL_DEBUG_SYMBOLS flag.
            However, please
            remember that any testing that you do with those bits
            won't necessarily
            match testing done with the official promoted bits.

            Dan



            regards,
            Sean.

            -------- Original Message --------
            Subject:    Re: How to decrease size of j2sdk_image
            Date:       Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:57:46 +0800
            From:       Weijun Wang <weijun.w...@oracle.com>
            <mailto:weijun.w...@oracle.com>
            To:         disc...@openjdk.java.net
            <mailto:disc...@openjdk.java.net>



            You can try set ENABLE_FULL_DEBUG_SYMBOLS to 0.

            -Max

            On 10/11/2012 02:38 PM, matchew wrote:
            >
            >  After successful openJDK7 build (Ubuntu 12.04) i have found that
            >  'j2sdk-image' has 240MB. More than 100MB belongs to one 
directory:
            >  openjdk7/jre/lib/amd64
            >
            >  Can anyone explain me why it is so big? For example in openJDK7 
installed
            >  via package manager this folder has only 18MB
            >
            >  Is there any way to decrease its size?
            >
            >  Thanks in advance
            >  --
            >  Mateusz
            >






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