On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Rogelio Serrano
<[email protected]> wrote:
> i think we already see that in the bsd's when companies get bsd code
> and dont give anything back.

You mean the operating systems? I think if they used GPL, then
companies would just use something else instead. Maybe something
proprietary, but probably Linux.

To me this is a bit like the piracy arguments; they are not really
stealing anything, whether they use the software and don't contribute,
or don't use the software at all; the project is not affected
negatively.

And that's assuming that's true, which I don't think it's the case;
companies do contribute--sure, not as much as if they were legally
obliged to, but some, which is better than nothing. I believe if Linux
was BSD licensed, companies would still contribute, because there are
advantages to it:

 * Less maintenance costs
 * Free help from developer rock stars
 * Free widespread testing
 * Developers learn from the community
 * Etc.

And in fact, these are exactly the arguments developers inside
companies use (I've seen it in Nokia) to convince managers to
contribute upstream, and it's the same arguments I've seen in embedded
conferences to make companies better community members.

Remember that for embedded Linux, many companies write proprietary
drivers, and some others make thousands of changes, and just publish a
huge patch which is useless for upstream. Even Android which has
proper commits is difficult to merge upstream. And this is GPL.

The problem is not the license, the problem is the attitude regarding
open source, the community, and upstream. And that comes from within;
the developers.

> when you think that most significant software development will be the
> reserve of closed proprietary companies then this is a problem.

Licenses won't change that.

I wish some software I love was BSD licensed, because I could convince
my employee to ship it on products. And I would convince my managers
that contributing back makes sense, when I get some free time...

Cheers.

-- 
Felipe Contreras
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