Hear, hear!
TravisK5HTB

Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2015 12:54:11 -0500
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BVARC] Frosty's memory
From: [email protected]

Interesting. I sit here with thoughts along the lines of, "yeah, let's play 
Animal Farm and make all the 'animals' equal." Only, I seem to recall that 
didn't turn out so well, maybe because we are not all equal in life? A minority 
do seem to make larger impacts on the fabric of civilization around them. Do 
those few not warrant any more significant remembrances? Of course, if some do, 
then who decides whom? Animal Farm indeed, but isn't such messiness part and 
parcel to having a civilization? I would argue you can't long sustain one 
without the other.
I had a friend, really only an acquaintance, KD5CB, who passed a week ago. He 
was rather poor, and his significant other--if you want to call her 
that--struggled to give him a funeral yesterday. A childhood illness left Mike 
blind and with organ damage, but he was certainly a character known widely in 
the Texas HF arena. The sad part is, it will pretty much be as if Mike never 
existed in a year. That may be the way of life, but it also adds to our abysmal 
sense of what went into getting us to exactly where we are.
Reality is that not all of us will leave behind significant others or squads of 
heirs, but that does not lessen that human need to be remembered. The assurance 
of remembrance is our only indication that our lives amount to anything 
worthwhile. Say what you will, Frosty had a larger influence on the current 
state of the Houston Amateur Radio community than most of us he left behind. I 
can grasp that, and I didn't even know or speak to the man. Lumping all the SKs 
together may be politically correct, but it degrades what was contributed by a 
industrious few and cheapens the rest of us still further.
I wonder aloud: What will we do in remembrance of Pump after he goes?

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 6:20 AM, Jackie Moody via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote:
I am sure that each one of us can name at least one ham who was influential to 
us, individually, in our pursuit of the hobby.  It will most likely not be the 
same person for all of us.  There is an SK member of BVARC who was especially 
helpful to me.  Nothing special was done to honor him.  Okay, he was not 
perfect and had some issues over the years preceding his death.  Same with 
Frosty.  In all fairness, if the club were to single out Frosty and name the 
hamfest in his honor, then retroactively and proactively I think many things 
need to be done in a similar fashion.  Put his name on the SK roster, let those 
who were close to him do what they will with regard to honoring his life, 
contributions to ham radio, etc., and move on.  JMHO
From:  Michael Monsour via BVARC <[email protected]>
Reply-To:  Michael Monsour <[email protected]>, BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO 
CLUB <[email protected]>
Date:  Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 12:10 AM
To:  Tony BenBrahim <[email protected]>, BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO 
CLUB <[email protected]>
Cc:  "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject:  Re: [BVARC] Frosty's memory

When I go SK

My wife and daughter will be well taken care of

But I should be thinking about putting the assets in some trust lest they go on 
a spending spree

They will not be forced to plead with a tin cup either

73
Michael
AC0TX

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Tony BenBrahim via BVARC <[email protected]> 
wrote:
Some will not like this message, but I have to get it off my chest. Frosty 
lived life fully and was liked by many. The finish was not brilliant though.
Most of us are closer to our eventual death than our birth. Please, please, 
please, before you buy the next toy for your shack, please buy burial 
insurance, or make the necessary financial arrangements so that when that time 
inevitably comes, your significant other, children or other family members are 
not burdened with your burial expenses, which may put tremendous financial 
hardship on them,  or  force them to pass the hat to bury you. We are all 
adults, we should take care of our responsibilities, until we are 6 feet under.
73
Tony k5DEV
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 5:13 PM, David Barber via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote:
Amen!

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On Mar 6, 2015, at 2:26 PM, Rick Hiller via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote:

Yep!  Ditto…..Rick – W5RH From: BVARC [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Eddie Runner via BVARC
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 2:23 PM
To: [email protected]; 'BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB'
Subject: Re: [BVARC] Frosty's memory the club honors all decased members or ex 
members (that I know of) on the websitesilent key listing.  ( If there are any 
we missed please let us know) The listing is pretty much their call and maybe a 
photo.    We could do more in that respect, maybe a little OBIT or something 
listingservice to the club or community… but my opinion, if we as individuals 
want to do more for Frosty (or anyone) it shouldbe individually and not the 
club.   I mean the club can make an announcement thatso and so needs help, or 
so and so needs funeral money or so and so needs rememberedthat’s ok. but money 
should come from individuals pockets (if they want to) not the club. then the 
club is fair to everyone and the individuals can do what they want for who they 
want. (or not)  I am pretty sure some of the current members are not even aware 
of the huge waysthat Frosty impacted the club and the ham radio world.   
besides awards from BVARC heserved as BVARC president and board member for many 
years. Many don’t know that Frosty owned a Ham radio store in Houston back in 
the 80s and 90s called mission communications.when I got licensed I got all my 
study materials from him.   And he had the best sidewalk salesanywhere!!! And 
he told me he took  my old butternut vertical antenna which I gave him and it 
is still standing somewhere in AFRICA!!    How cool is that??   He used to 
operate from Africe and other places, I don’t even know howmany foriegn call 
signs he had… (a bunch) Not to mention his work in schools and …. well there is 
a lot I don’t even know… I got my current tower and Log periodic antenna from 
him… He affected my life in ham radio in so many ways I will never even know 
them all.!!He was simply a very spacial person.  Eddie Runner (NU5K)  From: 
BVARC [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of GMuller885--- via BVARC
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 12:45 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BVARC] Frosty's memory Ladies and Gents:      Just a thought.   
And how is it fair to other families that have lost Amateur Radio members. Why 
should one get noticed more than another. We are all equal in the HAM 
community. We all contribute in our own ways. Just my thought. Gerald (Jerry) 
Muller K9GEM
[email protected]  In a message dated 3/6/2015 5:26:34 A.M. Central Standard 
Time, [email protected] writes:Good way to remember Frosty and his contributions 
to BVARC and amateur 
radio...

Might also be nice to memorialize him by naming an annual award for DX 
competition at BVARC..

73

Howard Bingham
KE5APJ

--

On 3/5/2015 3:15 PM, Jo. L. Keener via BVARC wrote:
> President Stone;
>
>
> I would like the board and members to consider honoring Frosty's memory
> be dedicating the upcoming ham fest to him.
>
>
> Respectfully:
>
>
> Jo.L. Keener
> KE7NSB
>
>


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