Michael,

Try adding another 5 to 10 feet of ladder line.   I had a similar issue
with my 80m doublet.   After adding just a bit more,  it was able to find a
match across all bands.

Just one of the drawbacks of not having dedicated resonant antennas for
each band!

Josh
KB3VQQ
On Dec 20, 2015 10:10 PM, "Michael Rapp via BVARC" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> My last antenna experiment was a center-fed zepp cut for 80 meters.
>  (Dipole fed in the center with 450 ohm feed line, requiring a tuner.)
>
> I found this antenna to be a decent multi-band antenna, with one
> exception:  I never could get my MFJ manual tuner to find a match on 40
> meters.  For the other bands, it seemed to find a match fairly easily.  As
> I had another antenna -- an inverted L vertical -- for  40 meters, I
> shrugged this off as something to look into later.
>
> Well, my inverted L has succumbed to the elements and I need to rebuild
> it, so I turned my attention to trying to figure out my center-fed zepp 40
> meter problem.
>
> After much research (remember, I'm a beginner at this!), the problem has
> become somewhat obvious.  One drawback to a center-fed zepp, I have
> learned, is that the impedance at the second harmonic of the lowest
> frequency will be very, very high.  The second harmonic of an 80 meter
> antenna is 40 meters.  Oops.  Apparently the impedance is so high the MFJ
> tuner can't match it.
>
> I thought about purchasing a fancy tuner, but I remembered that tuners
> aren't miracle devices.  They don't change the impedance of the antenna and
> I am concerned about power loss at the tuner.  It seems the only thing to
> do is to find a way to temporarily electrically shorten the dipole when I
> want to operate on 40 meters.
>
> The 'zepp is an inverted V, so the ends of each leg of the dipole are
> fairly low to the ground and easily accessible.  (They actually run along
> the top of my backyard fence for about 15 feet on each side!)  What if I
> coiled enough of the wire such that the second harmonic of the new length
> was off the 40 meter band?  Is coiling the excess wire enough to
> electrically shorten the antenna, or do I really need to run the excess
> wire back along the elements (parallel to them) for this to work?
>
> I like the coiling idea as I could just uncoil the wire on each end,
> stretch it back to its original length when I want to operate on 80 (or 60)
> meters.
>
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