Michael:

Some have actually designed switches to put in
different lengths of ladder or window line, or
twin lead to adjust the impedance.  I have even
used a large toroid at the TX with a few loops of
balanced line to choke out most common mode
currents in the feed line unless you want the
vertical feed line to radiate.

Gary, K5AMH

get a good match. On 12/20/2015 22:15, Joshua Rose via BVARC wrote:

Michael,

Try adding another 5 to 10 feet of ladder line. I had a similar issue with my 80m doublet. After adding just a bit more, it was able to find a match across all bands.

Just one of the drawbacks of not having dedicated resonant antennas for each band!

Josh
KB3VQQ

On Dec 20, 2015 10:10 PM, "Michael Rapp via BVARC" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi all,

    My last antenna experiment was a center-fed zepp cut for 80
    meters.  (Dipole fed in the center with 450 ohm feed line,
    requiring a tuner.)

    I found this antenna to be a decent multi-band antenna, with one
    exception:  I never could get my MFJ manual tuner to find a match
    on 40 meters.  For the other bands, it seemed to find a match
    fairly easily.  As I had another antenna -- an inverted L vertical
    -- for  40 meters, I shrugged this off as something to look into
    later.

    Well, my inverted L has succumbed to the elements and I need to
    rebuild it, so I turned my attention to trying to figure out my
    center-fed zepp 40 meter problem.

    After much research (remember, I'm a beginner at this!), the
    problem has become somewhat obvious.  One drawback to a center-fed
    zepp, I have learned, is that the impedance at the second harmonic
    of the lowest frequency will be very, very high.  The second
    harmonic of an 80 meter antenna is 40 meters.  Oops.  Apparently
    the impedance is so high the MFJ tuner can't match it.

    I thought about purchasing a fancy tuner, but I remembered that
    tuners aren't miracle devices.  They don't change the impedance of
    the antenna and I am concerned about power loss at the tuner.  It
    seems the only thing to do is to find a way to temporarily
    electrically shorten the dipole when I want to operate on 40 meters.

    The 'zepp is an inverted V, so the ends of each leg of the dipole
    are fairly low to the ground and easily accessible.  (They
    actually run along the top of my backyard fence for about 15 feet
    on each side!)  What if I coiled enough of the wire such that the
    second harmonic of the new length was off the 40 meter band?  Is
    coiling the excess wire enough to electrically shorten the
    antenna, or do I really need to run the excess wire back along the
    elements (parallel to them) for this to work?

    I like the coiling idea as I could just uncoil the wire on each
    end, stretch it back to its original length when I want to operate
    on 80 (or 60) meters.

-- /*/-=[Michael / KT5MR]-=/*/

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