Of course, you could always go with a Tesla Power Wall and Solar set up. Centerpoint just sent me a marketing e-mail offering them at a reduced rate. Still about $12K per TP wall. 13 KWH at 5 KW peak. Of course you can install multiple units and solar panels, etc. Just throw money at it.
Choose your poison.....RH <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 6:39 PM Home via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote: > I was using open framed generators when my power would go out. It was no > problem for me to push it out of storage and run the power cords. I knew > which breakers to turn off or on etc. I was on a job in Ohio when my wife > called that the power was off and it was 90 degrees inside the house. She > was not happy 4 young kids no lights, air condition and no water (we live > outside city utilities). She called an electrician which was a small > fortune just to have the water well running. I was in the same mindset is > it’s too expensive for a whole house generator. When I got home we had a > family discussion. A whole house generator with a transfer switch was > installed and cost was no object😂 > > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Mike Hardwick via BVARC <[email protected]> > wrote: > > All of this gasoline stuff and sizing problems are nothing but a headache > when dealing with any generator. Get one of these and it will take care of > all of those issues (you can also power the most of your street at well)! > > https://www.wired.com/2007/12/toshibas-home-n/ > > You will have plenty of power for that Alpha amp now! > > Mike > N5VCX > > > > On Monday, April 5, 2021, 09:13:50 AM CDT, JP Pritchard via BVARC < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > I agree with you Ron about the hassle of a DIY solution, but for those who > might feel confident about meeting that challenge, but hesitant to take on > a 10 to 20 thousand dollar investment in a "whole house" generator, here's > a less expensive plan: Install a single room heat pump style air > conditioner, and add a small fridge and microwave. Then power it with a > small moveable generator. That set up would keep you warm or cool, keep the > lights in your one room going and power for your fridge, microwave and TV. > There would be a cost, but not nearly what you'd face with the Generac > solution. > > JP (Richard) K5JPP > > On 04/05/2021 8:56 AM k5hm.ron--- via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Yes, the solution N5PRD describes was possible. We had a portable > generator before we purchased the Generac solution. > > > > At our age which I am guessing is more advanced, the job of pulling out > the generator from the garage, hooking it up, testing it periodically, > having some type of feed through connection from the generator to the fan > and other things you want to power like the refrigerator and the upright > freezer, storing and hunting around for fuel, going outside to refuel the > generator in the cold dark night were also considerations > > > > So I opted for the more automated solution. It is permanently installed by > licensed plumbers and electricians, self-testing, automatically switches on > whenever the utility power goes out. I have a seven year warranty on it and > the maintenance plan too. > > > > And I also have the satisfaction of knowing that my wife and family are > also protected from electrical failures after I pass on. > > > > 73, > > Ron, K5HM > > [email protected] > > www.qrz.com/db/k5hm > > <image001.jpg><image002.jpg>[image: smaller Prize] > > * Excelsior!* > > > > *From:* BVARC <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Mark Brantana via > BVARC > *Sent:* Sunday, April 4, 2021 11:35 PM > *To:* [email protected]; BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]> > *Cc:* Mark Brantana <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [BVARC] A Thank You to John Stratton, ARRL West Gulf > Division Director > > > > I just have to wonder, how Generac can justify the cost of their > generator. That is what does not add up for me. > > 4kW = $250 at Home Depot > > 17kW=$10,000 from Generac > > > > Looking at the chart below; from Hiller, if you want A/C included, it is > going to take that much power. > > > > If this is not critical, there another option could be considered: > > > > A whole-house unit would be nice to have, but a Generac would cost about > $120+/mo for four years. The small 4kW portable generator I bought would be > paid for in about 2 months at that rate. > > > > If you have gas heat, you can run the fan with the smaller unit. In this > option you can buy all the emergency generating power you need for the cost > of the 4kW generator I bought at Home Depot for around $250. Add a SPDT > switch to the fan and wiring for around $100 and the total cost is about > $350. > > > > It does not have to be Generac or nothing. Even if I had the cash, I don’t > know if I could justify the very high $/kW. I would prefer a few more > vacations. > > > > I would have been very comfortable if I had just been able to run the > heater fan. > > > > Mark > > N5PRD > > > > > > On Apr 4, 2021, at 8:11 PM, Bruce via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > We had our Generac whole house generator installed in August, 2020. Our > house is all electric. Shortly after, someone cut down a tree about a 1/2 > mile from us, it fell on a utility pole knocking out power to our entire > street for 8 hours. The generator was great during that summer heat. Then > came the cold of February and it worked great for 4 days. The neighbors on > both sides of me and behind me all have generators. The $10,000 investment > will never be recovered however, having power is wonderful. In fact, it > cost me about $1.25 an hour in natural gas to run the generator. Could not > be more pleased. > > For those getting a generator, if you go after a Generac, be sure to watch > their website for warranty specials. I have a 10-year warranty plus the > first year onsite service. Paid my dealer for 5 years of onsite above that. > Changing the oil is a piece of cake as I had to do it during the cold. > Every 25 hours of run time. I bought 6 filters and a bunch of 5W30 > synthetic oil to do it during an emergency when the dealer could not come > out. Takes about 10 minutes to change it. > > Enjoy your generator. > > 73...bruce > > On 4/4/2021 7:57 PM, k5hm.ron--- via BVARC wrote: > > For those of you who don’t know John, I met him when he was the Division > Vice Director. He is very active in the ARRL and a great advocate for hams > in Texas. He has been a frequent presenter at our Ham Fest and club > meetings. He knows his way around Texas politicians too. I’ve never had > much use for lawyers but John is the exception. Perhaps because like me, he > is also an engineer. > > > > Dear John, > > > > I wanted to thank you for your persistence in guiding the Texas > legislature to pass recent legislation regarding HOA’s preventing the > installation of standby generators. > > > > During the recent Texas freeze my XYL and I were without power for 4 days > We existed by camping out in our family room with the cats and the gas > fireplace and lots of flashlight batteries. Fortunately, we have a gas > stovetop, so we were able to prepare food. When it was over, I vowed, we > would not have to live without heating and AC winter or summer. We signed > with a local dealer and hopefully we will have the standby system installed > before the 2021 hurricane season begins. > > > > While we were going through the paper work with the company rep, he showed > us a suggested letter we could send to our HOA that stated > > “I understand it is my responsibility to obtain all HOA approvals for my > whole house generator system. I acknowledge *Quality Generators* cannot > act on my behalf in dealings with my HOA.” > > > > It was then I remembered John talking about his legislation regarding this > problem. So I Googled it. There it was in black and white. Texas Property > Code Section 202.019. I > > > > It reads: Except as provided by this section, a property owners' > association may not adopt or enforce a dedicatory instrument provision that > prohibits, restricts, or has the effect of prohibiting or restricting an > owner from owning, operating, installing, or maintaining a permanently > installed standby electric generator. > > > > Thanks again John. > > 73, > > Ron, K5HM > > [email protected] > > www.qrz.com/db/k5hm > > <image001.jpg><image002.jpg><image003.jpg> > > * Excelsior!* > > > > > > ________________________________________________ > > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > > > BVARC mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > > -- > > > > Bruce Paige, KK5DO > > > > AMSAT Director Contests and Awards > > AMSAT Board Member 2016-2022 > > > > ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE > > > > Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* > > Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com > > Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes > > > > Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News > > http://www.arrl.org > > > > AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat > > ________________________________________________ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > <image004.png> > ________________________________________________ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > ________________________________________________ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > <image004.png> > > <image002.jpg> > > <image003.jpg> > > <image001.jpg> > > ________________________________________________ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > ________________________________________________ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > -- Rick Hiller *e-mail: [email protected] <[email protected]>* *Cell: 832-474-3713* *Physical: 9031 Troulon Drive* * Houston, TX 77036* <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
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