On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Joseph A. Marrero
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Last time I checked, you can only compile GTK programs on Windows with the 
> help Cygwin. If CygWin didn't exist, GTK wouldn't be available on Windows.

Not true, you can compile GTK+ programs natively on Windows without
the need for CygWin. There are lots of GTK+ apps for Windows, like
Gimp, Pidgin, Inkscape, K-3D that don't use CygWin at all. You might
be thinking of MinGW, but that's different.

> I'm not sure what you mean by Linux API but comparing the Win32 API to Linux 
> system calls, is like comparing Apples to Oranges. Apart from similar 
> functionality (i.e. CreateProcess() to fork()), Linux just doesn't need or 
> depend on having a GUI and so obviously one is going to appear "simpler."
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> I guess what I'm trying to say, is that if you're going to compare Windows to 
> Linux, you should be fair and only compare similar functionality.

There is no Linux API per se... there is a system call interface which
is mostly compliant with POSIX, as well as standard libraries for file
I/O, process management, etc. There is also a kernel interface for
writing device drivers and such but you'd never need that for writing
applications.

> --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Tyler Littlefield <[email protected]> wrote:
> From: Tyler Littlefield <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [c-prog][OT] Linux (Was virus)
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 9:39 PM
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>            gtk exists for windows, too. I was refering to the linux API, not 
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> ----- Original Message -----
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>  From: Joseph A. Marrero
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>  To: c-p...@yahoogroups. com
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>  Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:34 PM
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>  Subject: Re: [c-prog][OT] Linux (Was virus)
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> I take it that you have never done any GTK programming.  The quality of APIs 
> on Linux (as well on Windows) is hit or miss.
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> --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Tyler Littlefield <ty...@tysdomain. com> wrote:
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>  From: Tyler Littlefield <ty...@tysdomain. com>
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>  Subject: Re: [c-prog][OT] Linux (Was virus)
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>  To: c-p...@yahoogroups. com
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>  Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 9:05 PM
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> I love how people won't go to linux because it can't play video games.
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> It's a great dev platform to start out on, the API is way less confusing than 
> the windows API, and you get more examples. I usually turn up what I want for 
> windows, but it takes a bit. Linux also has the source for everythingt 
> available, which makes things easier. It may not be the best if you don't 
> want to live off popcorn and rommen, but it's great to get going on.
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:02 PM
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> Subject: Re: [c-prog][OT] Linux (Was virus)
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>> Listen , Really linux is the best choise for real developers and system 
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> No it isn't. Use the best tool for the job. 90% of all _users_ still
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