Vincent I have used Artur Hefcyz testsgen to generate skeleton code for 2 differing situations and in both cases they worked extremely well I was looking for a like minded Cactus TestCase generator if you know of one I would appreciate a link Many Thanks, Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vincent Massol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Cactus Users List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 3:33 PM Subject: Automated cactus generation tool (was RE: RE: Good bye Tarek (was RE: REPOST: RE: Authentication Failure --> Problem Found))
> Hi Martin, > > Sorry but I don't know what an automated junit generation tool is. Do > you mean a tool that generates skeleton TestCase? > > Thanks > -Vincent > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Martin Gainty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 24 November 2003 02:26 > > To: Cactus Users List > > Subject: Re: RE: Good bye Tarek (was RE: REPOST: RE: Authentication > > Failure --> Problem Found) > > > > On the same note is there a automated cactus generation tool such as > the > > one for junit? > > Thanks, > > Martin > > >From: "Eric Pugh" > > >Reply-To: > > >To: "'Cactus Users List'" > > >Subject: RE: Good bye Tarek (was RE: REPOST: RE: Authentication > Failure > > --> Problem Found) > > >Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:11:10 +0100 > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > >Received: from mail.apache.org ([208.185.179.12]) by mc3- > > f34.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 23 Nov > 2003 > > 05:11:14 -0800 > > >Received: (qmail 33135 invoked by uid 500); 23 Nov 2003 13:11:10 > -0000 > > >Received: (qmail 33122 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2003 13:11:09 > - > > 0000 > > >Received: from unknown (HELO hqexch01.upstate.com) > (205.160.101.145) by > > daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 23 Nov 2003 13:11:09 -0000 > > >Received: from IQUITOS (ciaranlaptop.ltd.upstate.com > [172.17.1.100]) by > > hqexch01.upstate.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail > Service > > Version 5.5.2653.13)id XCTZ3QH3; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:12:08 -0500 > > >X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jG1z8iUJ+kGbDb/g/AcfLAS > > >Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by > ezmlm > > >Precedence: bulk > > >List-Unsubscribe: > > >List-Subscribe: > > >List-Help: > > >List-Post: > > >List-Id: "Cactus Users List" > > >Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >X-Priority: 3 (Normal) > > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) > > >In-Reply-To: > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Importance: Normal > > >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 > > >X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: > 000000003F7DA61201DEFA4D8CC4384DDEAFB94164F0D200 > > >X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > > >Return-Path: cactus-user-return-4852- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2003 13:11:14.0075 (UTC) > > FILETIME=[4596B6B0:01C3B1C3] > > > > > >Just a heads up on Mock objects.. they seem simple, they aren't. > There > > are > > >a lot of weird subtleness issues with the order of setting up > expected > > >results. And the concept of using generic objects to record a > series of > > >expected results, and then verifing the expected results occur with > a > > real > > >object? Egads..! Cactus has lots of setup issues, that is where > most > > >bugs/heartache comes from. MockObjects, especially once you get > beyonnd > > the > > >super simple onces, have a lot of difficult concepts to grok > instead.. > > > > > >The two technologies are both difficult, simple on the surface, but > > more > > >complex as you get deeper. Something that may help with learning > cactus > > is > > >to A) buy the book. b) Start over with much simpler use cases. When > i > > >tried Cactus the first time, I tried to apply it to a very complex > > database > > >driven, xml parsing, coffee brewing app! Well, it didn't brew > coffee, > > but > > >almost. It was very frustrating. So then I went and tried out > cactus > > >testing with the JNDI code for commons-configuration, and it was > much > > >simpler.. Contributing that code helped me get a success under my > belt > > and > > >made getting deeper into cactus much more enjoyable. > > > > > >I do think my motto: "Nothing is ever easy..." is very applicable > to > > >software development..! > > > > > >Eric > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Tarek M. Nabil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 11:19 AM > > > > To: Cactus Users List > > > > Subject: RE: Good bye Tarek (was RE: REPOST: RE: > > > > Authentication Failure > > > > --> Problem Found) > > > > > > > > > > > > Vincent, > > > > > > > > > > > > AFAIK, there are not many known bugs. 99.99% of the time it > > > > is an error > > > > from its users. J2EE stuff is complex. > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe that's because there are a lot of subtle things that > > > > you need to do to get it to work, and they're never mentioned > > > > in the documentation. > > > > > > > > > > > > There are other ways to pay back apart from money, like > > > > giving your time to help > > > > the others and contributing. I can tell you that if you're > > recognized > > > > for doing this others will more likely help you out. That's how > > things > > > > work in life. It's also true for open source. > > > > > > > > > > > > That's easier said than done. How can you contribute to > > > > something you can't understand? If you have a problem and you > > > > never find out how to solve it, what do you have to contribute? > > > > > > > > Anyway, thanks to everyone. And, BTW, mock objects are my > > > > next trial, so wish me luck. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Tarek Nabil > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Vincent Massol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 12:06 PM > > > > To: 'Cactus Users List' > > > > Subject: Good bye Tarek (was RE: REPOST: RE: Authentication > > > > Failure --> > > > > Problem Found) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Tarek M. Nabil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: 23 November 2003 10:22 > > > > > To: Cactus Users List > > > > > Subject: RE: REPOST: RE: Authentication Failure --> Problem > Found > > > > > > > > > > Hi Andrew, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your support. I hope that you and everyone else > will > > have > > > > > better luck with your efforts. As for me, I've decided to drop > the > > > > whole > > > > > Cactus idea. The problem I described below took me several > days to > > > > > determine the root cause and until now, I haven't been able to > > solve > > > > it. > > > > > Now, that I'm even faced with more problems writing trivial > > > > tests, and > > > > my > > > > > questions are not being answered by anyone, it seems that the > > whole > > > > thing > > > > > is losing its meaning. This is supposed to increase > > > > productivity, not > > > > > hinder it. > > > > > > > > > > Maybe in the future, when the framework is less buggy and > there > > are > > > > more > > > > > developers dedicated to support, maybe then I will try again. > > > > > > > > AFAIK, there are not many known bugs. 99.99% of the time it > > > > is an error > > > > from its users. J2EE stuff is complex. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Before I unsubscribe from this list, I just want to say that I > > still > > > > > believe in the open source model. But open source projects > > > > need a lot > > > > of > > > > > effort before they're embraced by the developer community. > > > > > > > > *You* are the open source, so it's only as good as you can make > it. > > > > There's no one paid to support you, Tarek. We're all busy > > > > working on our > > > > day work and we're only developing/supporting at night time, > > > > during our > > > > free time. > > > > > > > > That said, nobody is preventing your from hiring support > services to > > > > help you out. AFAIK, you haven't approached anybody for that. > > > > There are > > > > other ways to pay back apart from money, like giving your time > to > > help > > > > the others and contributing. I can tell you that if you're > > recognized > > > > for doing this others will more likely help you out. That's how > > things > > > > work in life. It's also true for open source. > > > > > > > > > The most > > > > > important of these efforts is support to the community > > > > through mailing > > > > > lists like this. Unfortunately, this is not the case here. > > > > > > > > Feel free to come back when you've something to contribute. > > > > > > > > Thanks and good luck > > > > -Vincent > > > > > > > > PS: If you don't want to use Cactus, the other alternative you > > should > > > > consider is using mock objects. > > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
