On 15-Nov-05, at 12:11 PM, Richard Dice wrote:
I posted a couple of things there yesterday.
Are you 'wunder', then?
That's me!
I was trying to do an
install on perl 5.6, but I ran into a whole bunch of dependancy
issues with some of the modules that CAF requires, so I eventually
gave up on that particular machine. Is there an established minimum
version of perl required to get everything installed?
If you open up the Build.PL at the top level of the CAF tarball
then you'll see
most of the modules in the 'requires' block have '0' as the
required version
number, meaning "I don't care what version you have as long as you
have it."
Clearly, this is wrong. Any given one of these modules has
probably gone
through dozens of version releases, and no doubt the 0.01 versions
of the
modules aren't sufficient for CAF purposes, or any purpose probably.
But what can Michael and I do? It's not like we have an array of
testing
machines in our respective basements and build scripts and
environments set up
to test every conceivable permutation of CPAN module release *and* an
infinitely-good test harness suite so that we can say "here is the
minimum base
case required for CAF". (Michael actually gave a talk about this
at TPF during
the lightning talks in September.)
Well, maybe I can help out a bit. I've got about 10 machines on my
rack that have various OSs and versions of Perl. I can do a bit of
testing to see what common problems come up with older versions.
The same goes for Perl. I'm a Perl guy so I keep my Perl up to
date, e.g.
I try to do that as well, but when you've got a machine in a
production environment, you don't always have that choice. (Or let's
say it's not always easy). The machine in question is a Sun Cobalt
RAQ 550 that has been running fine for a couple of years, but an
upgrade of Perl can break the GUI, crons, all sorts of things if
you're not careful. Sun EOLed these machines a long while back, but
as long as it does the job I'm reluctant to move the scripts to a new
machine. Also, even though I do have an up to date version of Perl
running in a different location mod_perl was compiled using v5.6, so
that would the version of Perl I'd need to install CAF with. I don't
fancy upgrading mod_perl on a live machine for various reasons. So,
rather than running CAF under Apache::Registry, I think what I'll do
is run it under CGI using the upgraded Perl in the alternate location.
So, I guess what I'm saying is that if there is even one required
module that will not work under a certain version of Perl and it's a
known issue, it would be helpful to post that.
This is pretty damn new. What is the min version of Perl
required? I have no
idea. This is what I have on my machine, I only own one computer,
and I keep it
up to date. I imagine Michael is in a similar situation.
We rely on users to provide us with error reports. If something
didn't work for
you, let us know and we'll include it in the 'require' block in
Build.PL.
Getting back to your dependancy issues, what kind of dependancy
issues were
these? The presence (or lack) of C libraries? (That's a special
kind of
dependacy issue.) Post your error log from your CPAN module
install here and we
can provide insight into how to overcome it, hopefully.
Well, here is a list of modules that don't install:
CGI::Application::Plugin::AnyTemplate
CGI::Application::Plugin::ValidateRM
DBD::SQLite
Class::DBI
Apache::Session
Class::DBI::SQLite
Class::DBI::AbstractSearch
CGI::Application::Plugin::LogDispatch
CGI::Application::Plugin::Config::Context
Apache::SessionX
Time::Format
A lot of this seems to lead back to Scalar::List::Utils:
[root Scalar-List-Utils-1.17]# make test
PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e"
"test_harness(0, 'inc', 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t
t/00version.....ok
t/blessed.......ok
t/dualvar.......NOK 8# Failed test (t/dualvar.t at line 46)
t/dualvar.......NOK 9# Failed test (t/dualvar.t at line 47)
t/dualvar.......ok 11/11# Looks like you failed 2 tests of 11.
t/dualvar.......dubious
Test returned status 2 (wstat 512, 0x200)
DIED. FAILED tests 8-9
Failed 2/11 tests, 81.82% okay
t/first.........ok
t/isvstring.....skipped
all skipped: isvstring requires XS version
t/lln...........ok
t/max...........ok
t/maxstr........ok
t/min...........ok
t/minstr........ok
t/openhan.......ok
t/p_blessed.....ok
t/p_first.......ok
t/p_lln.........ok
t/p_max.........ok
t/p_maxstr......ok
t/p_min.........ok
t/p_minstr......ok
t/p_openhan.....ok
t/p_readonly....ok
t/p_reduce......ok
t/p_refaddr.....ok
t/p_reftype.....ok
t/p_shuffle.....ok
t/p_sum.........ok
t/p_tainted.....ok
t/proto.........ok
t/readonly......ok
t/reduce........ok
t/refaddr.......ok
t/reftype.......ok
t/shuffle.......ok
t/sum...........ok
t/tainted.......ok
t/weak..........ok
5/22 skipped: Test does not work with perl < 5.8.3
Failed Test Stat Wstat Total Fail Failed List of Failed
------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------
t/dualvar.t 2 512 11 2 18.18% 8-9
1 test and 5 subtests skipped.
Failed 1/35 test scripts, 97.14% okay. 2/313 subtests failed, 99.36%
okay.
make: *** [test_dynamic] Error 11
Here's my version info:
[root Scalar-List-Utils-1.17]# perl -V
Summary of my perl5 (revision 5.0 version 6 subversion 0) configuration:
Platform:
osname=linux, osvers=2.2.16c23_v, archname=i386-linux
uname='linux madison.cobalt.com 2.2.16c23_v #1 mon jan 8
19:53:53 pst 2001 i686 unknown '
config_args='-des -Doptimize=-O2 -m486 -fno-strength-reduce -
Dcc=gcc -Dcccdlflags=-fPIC -Dinstallprefix=/usr -Dprefix=/usr -
Darchname=i386-linux -Dd_dosuid -Dd_semctl_semun -Di_db -Di_ndbm -
Di_gdbm -Di_shadow -Di_syslog -Dman3ext=3pm -Uuselargefiles'
hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define
usethreads=undef use5005threads=undef useithreads=undef
usemultiplicity=undef
useperlio=undef d_sfio=undef uselargefiles=undef
use64bitint=undef use64bitall=undef uselongdouble=undef
usesocks=undef
Compiler:
cc='gcc', optimize='-O2 -m486 -fno-strength-reduce',
gccversion=2.95.3 20010315 (release)
cppflags='-fno-strict-aliasing -I/usr/local/include'
ccflags ='-fno-strict-aliasing -I/usr/local/include'
stdchar='char', d_stdstdio=define, usevfork=false
intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8
d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=12
ivtype='long', ivsize=4, nvtype='double', nvsize=8,
Off_t='off_t', lseeksize=4
alignbytes=4, usemymalloc=n, prototype=define
Linker and Libraries:
ld='gcc', ldflags =' -L/usr/local/lib'
libpth=/usr/local/lib /lib /usr/lib
libs=-lnsl -ldl -lm -lc -lcrypt
libc=/lib/libc-2.2.so, so=so, useshrplib=false, libperl=libperl.a
Dynamic Linking:
dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=so, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags='-
rdynamic'
cccdlflags='-fPIC', lddlflags='-shared -L/usr/local/lib'
Characteristics of this binary (from libperl):
Compile-time options:
Built under linux
Compiled at Mar 21 2001 01:18:47
@INC:
/usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0/i386-linux
/usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-linux
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
So, yes, it's over 4 years old... Anyway, it's not a show stopper
for me -- I can work around it, but it kind of slowed me down
getting started with CAF. :)
Olaf
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