Jack Schwartz wrote: > Hi Will and Dave C. > > On 11/03/08 11:28, Willie Walker wrote: >> Hi Jack! >> >> Thanks for asking. Sorry I missed the bug report. >> >> The user experience we're going for is that the blind user can have an >> idea that when they boot the live CD, it will come up speaking. One >> way to accomplish this is to create a GRUB entry that provides some >> audible cue when it is selected (e.g., it beeps when you arrow to it, >> but that requires a patch: >> https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?func=detailitem&item_id=14661). >> >> Failing audible cues, we can put the screen reader option at an edge of >> the list. With this, the user can press the arrow key repeatedly and >> be somewhat sure they are at the edge of the GRUB menu before pressing >> return. By placing the screen reader option at the top or the bottom >> of the list, we can let the blind user select the screen reader option. >> So, if "Boot from Hard Disk" has to be at the bottom of the list, >> would it be possible to move the screen reader to the top of the list, >> the magnifier second, and then make the default selection be the third >> entry? >> > So, it boils down to the following options: > > 1) Leave as is: > > boot from CD (default) > boot from CD, console mode > boot from hard drive > boot with magnifier > boot with screen reader > > 2) move accessibility to the top > > boot with screen reader > boot with magnifier > boot from CD (default) > boot from CD, console mode > boot from hard drive > > 3) Put hard drive on top: > > boot from hard drive > boot from CD (default) > boot from CD, console mode > boot with magnifier > boot with screen reader > > Accessibility (screen reader) has to either be at the top or the bottom > to aid the blind. > > To me, it boils down to: > (1) should the default "boot from CD" be at the top of the list > (sacrificing (2)), or > (2) should booting from the hard drive be at the bottom of the list > (sacrificing (1)) > > There are other options, such as putting booting from the hard drive be > at the top of the list, but these are not as good. > > If it's up to me, I'd leave it as is (option 1). Do others have an opinion? >
I would defer to Frank here, but it's usually preferable to have the default selection be the first selection. The current layout accomplishes that and works for a11y, so I would leave it. Dave > Thanks, > Jack > > P.S. I realize this won't be fixed for 2008.11, but we can take care of > this now so that the needful can be done when normal (non-stopper) bugs > can be fixed at a later time. >> Will >> >> On Nov 3, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Jack Schwartz wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Will. >>> >>> Bug 4333 has been filed regarding order of the items in the Grub menu. >>> >>> Currently it has the two standard boot modes, followed by the "Boot >>> from >>> Hard Disk", followed by the two accessibility modes. The "bug" is to >>> put the "Boot from hard Disk" item at the bottom of the menu. >>> >>> I seem to recall you telling me that the accessibility modes had to be >>> at the bottom of the menu; is this correct, or is there no preference >>> or restriction on this? If accessibility options need to be at the >>> bottom of the menu, we should close the bug. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Jack >>> >>> >>> P.S. Why am I involved in this? Because I'm the one who put the >>> accessibility items at the bottom of the grub menu in the first place. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> caiman-discuss mailing list >>> caiman-discuss at opensolaris.org >>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/caiman-discuss >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> caiman-discuss mailing list >> caiman-discuss at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/caiman-discuss >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > caiman-discuss mailing list > caiman-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/caiman-discuss
