Karen,

Did you test the IPS script? I'm concerned because at the end of the 
pkg_image area population,
we set the authority to whatever is specified as the post_install 
authority. Seems like this would
 change that.

Of course since wanting to do this is probably a common want, maybe we 
should move the setting
of the post_install authority to later in the build?

What do you think?

Jean

Karen Tung wrote:
> Hi Barbara,
>
> I updated the TOI page to include finalizer script examples on 
> adding/deleting packages.
> I even added an example for adding a SVR4 package for debugging purposes.
> I got questions about how to do that in the last couple of weeks, so,
> I thought I will just document it here.  I know we are only supporting 
> IPS package now.
> So, if there are any objections on having the SVR4 example there, I 
> can remove it.
>
> The TOI link, in case you need it:
>
> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/caiman/Constructor/DC_docs/DC_toi.html
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Karen
>
> Karen Tung wrote:
>> There are a whole bunch of things that we support in the manifest that
>> are not there in the slim_cd.xml manifest we ship today, because those
>> values are not used in creating the Live CD.
>>
>> I am thinking that we should  supply a "complete" manifest, with all
>> the tags we currently support in there.  That way, people don't
>> need to dig through the code to find what tags they should specify.  
>> The documents
>> can also point to that file.
>>
>> An example of how to add or delete from the "standard" set of packages
>> for debugging purposes  would be useful.  I will come up with 
>> something tomorrow and post it here.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --Karen
>>
>>
>> Jean McCormack wrote:
>>  
>>> That's one thing we should make sure to walk through on Tuesday.
>>>
>>> Jean
>>>
>>> Barbara.Lundquist at Sun.COM wrote:
>>>      
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> I'll start a list of stuff that I can add to the DC document.
>>>>
>>>> Jean, when you have comments in the manifest, I'd like to include 
>>>> that copy of the manifest as an appendix in my document. And, I can 
>>>> use your comments to improve the main doc instructions.
>>>>
>>>> I skimmed Willie's email about adding or deleting packages and 
>>>> agree that this should be added to the document, but I'll have to 
>>>> work through it some to get it in shape to add to the document. I'm 
>>>> not understanding the procedure just from the emails.
>>>>
>>>> I'm going to go ahead and route the doc as is for review week today 
>>>> or tomorrow, but we can add more of this information to the 
>>>> document over the next couple weeks.
>>>> Barbara
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/16/08 14:06, Jean McCormack wrote:
>>>>          
>>>>> I definitely agree that an example of how to add or delete 
>>>>> packages so the user doesn't have
>>>>> to modify the manifest and repull all the IPS packages would be good.
>>>>>
>>>>> pkg_repo_addl_authority is supported and the user can add it to 
>>>>> the manifest. There are several
>>>>> other manifest items that fall into this category. I'm going to 
>>>>> file a bug and work on putting
>>>>> comments into the manifest so the user understand what they are 
>>>>> for and that they can use them.
>>>>>
>>>>> jean
>>>>>
>>>>> Barbara.Lundquist at Sun.COM wrote:
>>>>>                
>>>>>> Karen, Jean, and Jack,
>>>>>> Can you take a look at the feedback we got from Willie below? 
>>>>>> Sorry I set this feedback aside
>>>>>> till this week, but we still have plenty of time to incorporate 
>>>>>> some of Willie's ideas to the DC document before I deliver the 
>>>>>> doc for 2008.11.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Per Willie's suggestions, I don't see the pkg_repo_addl_authority 
>>>>>> element in the sample slim_cd.xml file I have. Are we not using 
>>>>>> that element for 2008.11? Should people just edit the many 
>>>>>> repository field in the manifest instead of adding this 
>>>>>> additional authority field?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you also comment on Willie's suggestions about how to keep 
>>>>>> revising packages without
>>>>>> starting over? We could add some coverage in docs about that, but 
>>>>>> would need your input.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I won't have Willie's input in the review draft this week, but we 
>>>>>> can still make his changes for final delivery.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Barbara
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>>> Subject:     Re: [caiman-discuss] FYI Alpha Draft of Distr Constr 
>>>>>> Article
>>>>>> Date:     Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:06:17 -0700
>>>>>> From:     Barbara.Lundquist at Sun.COM
>>>>>> To:     Willie Walker <William.Walker at Sun.COM>, Barbara Lundquist 
>>>>>> <Barbara.Lundquist at Sun.COM>
>>>>>> References:     <48DBCEB3.50703 at Sun.COM> 
>>>>>> <ce4f4bbcb7d02365dcef6dec02b74484 at sun.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you!! This is great input!
>>>>>> I'm on another project for a few days, but will integrate your 
>>>>>> suggestions when I do another draft of the DC article.
>>>>>> Barbara
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 09/26/08 06:30, Willie Walker wrote:
>>>>>>                      
>>>>>>> Hi Barbara:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm sending this just to you so it doesn't cause a flurry of 
>>>>>>> reviews that you haven't asked for.  :-)  I think the document 
>>>>>>> looks good and the direction/scope are great.  One thing I think 
>>>>>>> that needs to be considered is the audience, which will probably 
>>>>>>> non-Sun people making a custom distribution that includes 
>>>>>>> packages and modifications that are not part of the 
>>>>>>> opensolaris.org IPS.  For example, they might be adding 
>>>>>>> proprietary packages maintained on a private IPS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Given this, I think the pkg_repo_addl_authority element of the 
>>>>>>> manifest needs some specific discussion.  I had to search for it 
>>>>>>> in the source code.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In addition, if the audience is anything like I am, they won't 
>>>>>>> get the distribution right the first time they try.  Instead, 
>>>>>>> they will probably focus on modifications to a small set of 
>>>>>>> packages in the distribution, rebuilding the distro each time 
>>>>>>> they make a change.    From what I can tell from the TOI calls 
>>>>>>> and my own personal experience, I suspect an FAQ is going to be 
>>>>>>> "How do I replace/modify/remove specific packages in my 
>>>>>>> distribution without having to pull all the packages each time I 
>>>>>>> make a change?"  To help with this, an appendix that describes 
>>>>>>> an example use of checkpointing might be very useful.  A 
>>>>>>> specific example I'm thinking of is a finalizer that sits right 
>>>>>>> in the front of all the other finalizers and tweaks the 
>>>>>>> installed packages on the system.  The Sep 24, 2008 7:33 AM 
>>>>>>> message I posted here contains a rough example: 
>>>>>>> http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=75218&tstart=15. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Will
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 25, 2008, at 1:47 PM, Barbara.Lundquist at Sun.COM wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                            
>>>>>>>> Gang,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've roughed out an alpha draft of a "Distribution Constructor 
>>>>>>>> Guide" and
>>>>>>>> posted it on this page:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/caiman/files/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> See DistroConstr.pdf.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IMPORTANT: There are still significant engineering changes that 
>>>>>>>> will affect
>>>>>>>> this document, so I'm not asking for a review of the details of 
>>>>>>>> this document yet.
>>>>>>>> However, I welcome comments about the overall design and scope 
>>>>>>>> of the document.
>>>>>>>> I know there's alot left to do for this document, but you can 
>>>>>>>> at least see what
>>>>>>>> direction I'm heading in.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hopefully, we'll be ready for a full review in early October, 
>>>>>>>> at or near the
>>>>>>>> code freeze date, TBD.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Comments welcome.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Barbara
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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