Sarah Jelinek wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
>
>   
>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Sarah Jelinek <Sarah.Jelinek at sun.com> 
>> wrote:
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>>     
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Located at:
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>>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/caiman/auto_install/AI_Reqs_Final/
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>> I would find quite helpful to be able to perform an installation into
>> an alternate boot environment. That is, while I am running a
>> production workload I should be able to perform a fresh installation
>> using the same profiles, rules, and pre/post automation as I would use
>> if I were performing a network-based installation.
>>   
>>     
> Are you talking a 'live' installation utilizing the AI profile? That is 
> using the profile used to generate the initial BE on the system with AI, 
> to install the alternate BE?
>   
I know I'd like to be able to have it create a blank BE, and then 
install it with the AI profile of my choice - and using what ever means 
it normally uses during a net-boot-install (rules? lookups? etc) to find 
the right profile for this host if I don't give it one. Basically a 
net-install but without taking the machine down.

>> There needs to be a way to specify which disk(s) to install onto.
>> There are two parts to this:
>> - It should be possible to programatically mirror the boot environment
>>   
>>     
> The thought here is that ZFS makes it easy to setup mirroring after the 
> fact. So you can create a single disk boot pool and then attach a device 
> creating a mirror later. The thing I think that needs to be considered 
> is how AI users would want to get mirrors setup. Asking them to go to 
> the client afterwards to setup the mirror might be the wrong thing to do.
>   
Yes. I wouldn't really consider it an 'Automated  Install' if I need to 
login and attach the second mirror manually - or even automated outside 
of AI..
>> - If I'm performing an automated install, I should be able to ensure
>> that the installation goes to my intended boot drive(s), not the
>> drives on the SAN (which may be enumerated in such a way that the
>> controller number is lower than the boot disks) that contain a
>> database that I'd prefer not to have to restore.
>>
>>   
>>     
> Agree.. I didn't explicitly call this out, but we do intend to allow 
> users to specify which disk to to the install on.
>
>   
This is one area I'd like to see some innovation in. I agree with Mike 
that I'd like to be able to tell AI to ignore my SAN disks, but at the 
same time I'd like to not have to tweak the profile for each machine 
tiype where the local disk might be c1t0, vs c0t0, etc.

I don't know if this means some sort of 'local-only' or 
'direct-attach-only' quailfier, or a 'ignore-san', or what. But 
basically I'd like something like the jumpstart 'rootdisk' only smarter 
and possibly willing to take advice. For mirroring it'd be nice to have 
an equivalent 'roormirror' that also hhad some brains on picking a good 
second disk to mirror to.

I'm really trying to stay up at a high level of 'requirements' but I 
just can't help thinking in terms of 'implementation.' Sorry.

   -Kyle

>> What file systems does it allow upgrade from?  UFS?
>>
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> ZFS. It is a pkg image-update essentially. We don't support UFS at all.
>
> Regards,
> sarah
>
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