propel is a nice, advanced ORM layer. not only that, i also think orm-layers /data abstraction layers should not be a fundamental part of a framework (unless it's very decent and there is enough dev-hours available)
i've seen the issue of cake's not too-avanced data-abstraction layer (let's call it an ARM layer? ;-) ) pop up a few times, and afaik, a better, Object-based RM (fully integrated in cake) is in the works, but this will take a long, long while to develop (milestone 2.0 iirc) That's one negative remark about cake, on all the other fronts i think cake is the winner. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
