Ok but my point is now more related to the fact that CakePHP founding
elements are property of the public domain and knowledge.

Let's see, CakePHP follows programming patterns established on the
developers such as MVC, Active Record, etc. These, IMHO can't be patented.
Otherwise almost any self-respected framework / product in *any* programming
language would be liable to law suits. So information, as we all know, that
is part of the general knowledge can't be patented, no matter how many tries
you send to the patent office.

CakePHP is a framework that uses established patterns to help developers
build applications. In reality, there's no innovation there, it is just the
great and smart effort of how to put stuff together to ease up developing.
So there's no *unique* foundation that can be patented. Therefore, nothing
can be used later on to harass CakePHP developers. 

The case link you sent me is a completely different legal battle: D-LINK was
violating the terms of the GPL linux license, and D-LINK came back arguing
that the GPL is not a legal binding document (what a pack of bull****)

So I don't think there's much to go under these issues. CakePHP foundation
elements and work can't be patented because they belong to the public
domain. It will be impossible for someone to patent something as the MVC
pattern just as it would be impossible for someone to patent the concept of
blogging, for that matter.

-MI

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De: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre
de Nimrod A. Abing
Enviado el: Lunes, 18 de Diciembre de 2006 02:47 a.m.
Para: [email protected]
Asunto: Re: Legal Concerns Regarding CakePHP and Cake Software Foundation

Actually the license is not at issue here. The licenses on most FOSS
software normally only cover issues regarding ownership and
distriibution of the code, works derived from the code, and
modifications to the code. There is no question that software
licenses, at least to my knowledge the BSD and GPL, *will* stand up in
court. But only if the concerns in question are what I have enumerated
above. This has been proven in one court case at least for the GPL.
See:

http://www.technewsworld.com/story/53212.html - the D-Link case.

The main concern, at least for my employer, is someone or some company
coming up with a submarine patent on some crucial part of CakePHP and
then using that patent to harass or sue CakePHP users. The MIT license
that covers CakePHP code only covers ownership, distribution, derived
works and distribution of derived works, modifications and
distribution of modifications, and of course the "NO WARRANTY" clause.

It does not matter if the holder of the submarine patent is *not* a
contributor to CakePHP who has signed the CSL or CSSL. He just has to
hold a patent, make a case for its enforcement and then use it to
harass or sue users. Note that this is not only a concern for CakePHP,
this also applies to other FOSS projects as well.


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