Thanks for the information, it seems on reflection my disagreements with prototype stem from my personal misgivings with client slide scripting. I have just taken to jQuery more than the other alternatives :)
> For instance in cakePHP 1.2 I am finding some issues with using the paginator helper > since it has code for prototype built in. With jquery this is not needed Since it's not even a DEV release, cake 1.2 , and you found a bug (an issue ? :) , please report it :] after I have finished what I am doing this evening (behind deadline & still more to do) I will reinstall cake 1.2 and check the pagination again. > don't know about dojo, yui I took to those like a duck takes to lava :) >but i'm having a VERY hard time to optimize Interface's sortable I have had trouble with imagebox in IE which might be due to compression, or more specifically my current implementation. as Donald Rumsfeld would put it: its a question of known knowns, known unknowns unknown knowns and unknown unknowns. and in the words of the Dude "New sh*t has come to light! " thanks to this thread I ma privy to more now. On 08/02/07, DJ Spark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi sam, > > > AFAIK prototype require more code than jquery and is generally not > unobtrusive, I may be > wrong about this > > Prototype maybe or maybe not obstrusive. The same with jquery. Cake's > implementation is a little obtrusive, but i heard something about 1.2 > being totally different. > > > and now that jquery 1.1.1 is out its more compact than before and faster > than it was > > also there is the interface lib for jquery which is I think fully > featured. > > Total lie :) > it's bigger than before (8KB more, in the compressed version, going 20KB) > interface 1.1.2 is 100KB uncompressed , but it's pretty modular (you > might use only 4 or five modules: to use sortables, for instance, it's > 20KB). > If you use the very same compressor to Prototype, it goes to 30KB, > and scriptaculous lib , if I remember correctly, 40KB, complete (it > has bigger modules, though) > About speed, it's harder to tell, but i'm having a VERY hard time to > optimize Interface's sortable, drop for a very complex layout with > many items to be sorted: it was taking about 12 seconds to START a > drag. After messing around, it went to less than one second. And the > sortables DO NOT work with tables, If you need, you must go to > scriptaculous (don't know about dojo, yui) > > > > > It much easier to learn and code than prototype (IMHO) - and the jquery > list is very active. > > Yes, there was a big difference here. > But now, prototype crew woke up and set a docs site, started writing > stuff for non-hardcore programmers, a better release cycle, but i'm > not sure about the prototype mailing list. > And it's faster to learn prototype, indeed, although it's not as > powerful as prototype. But we never need that power, do we ? :D > > > > For instance in cakePHP 1.2 I am finding some issues with using the > paginator helper > > since it has code for prototype built in. With jquery this is not needed > > Since it's not even a DEV release, cake 1.2 , and you found a bug > (an issue ? :) , please report it :] > > > > as you attach events to elements via classname or ids foreinstance. I > have a jLink class > > which I use to change the content of a page. Below is the jQuery code > that attaches the > binds the code to anchors with > > prototype works in the same way even before jquery's first release. > the code maybe a little more verbose, but just a few lines. > > // <a id="clicker" href="http://foo.com";>Click me</a> > Event.observe('clicker', 'click', functionName); > > if you are not using IDs, you may do it this way > > $$('div#page a.jLink').each( > Event.observe(this, 'click', functionName); > ); > > > http://ajaxian.com/archives/prototype-adds-css-selector-function-divpage-psummary-img > (january 18th, 2006) > > > I'm a big fan of jquery's pragmatism, but it's not a medicine for > everything, be aware of that ;) > And question everything you hear. always. > > Spark > > > On 2/8/07, Sam Sherlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi fredBH, > > > > I find jquery much easier to use and code than prototype (actually I > never > > did make > > any real progress with prototype) > > > > Having said that the use of prototype is more widespread than jquery, > and so > > there are more tutorials for prototype. > > > > heres some tutorials that I have found useful in the past > > http://docs.jquery.com/Tutorials > > http://15daysofjquery.com/category/tutorials/ > > http://dzone.com/rsslinks/the_10_minute_jquery_tutorial.html > > > > AFAIK prototype require more code than jquery and is generally not > > unobtrusive, I may be wrong about this > > > > and now that jquery 1.1.1 is out its more compact than before and faster > > than it was > > also there is the interface lib for jquery which is I think fully > featured. > > > > It much easier to learn and code than prototype (IMHO) - and the jquery > list > > is very active. > > > > For instance in cakePHP 1.2 I am finding some issues with using the > > paginator helper since it has code for prototype built in. With jquery > this > > is not needed > > > > as you attach events to elements via classname or ids foreinstance. I > have > > a jLink class which I use to change the content of a page. Below is the > > jQuery code that attaches the binds the code to anchors with > > > > // jLink - now add events > > $("a.jLink").click(function(event) { > > > > event.stopPropagation (); > > > > event.preventDefault(); > > > > > > jLinkCall(this.href); > > }); > > // ### Begin jLink Events ### > > > > function jLinkCall(jHref) > > { > > > > // extract the id from this.href > > var htmlDoc = new String(jHref); > > > > // CODE TO PROCESS THE HREF {WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO} > > ... > > > > // SLIDE UP THE MAIN DIV > > $("div#main").slideUp("fast").empty(); > > > > // REQUEST JSON CONTENT > > $.getJSON("/articles/data/" + htmlDoc,params,function(json) { > > // debug in firebug > > console.debug(json); > > ); > > } // END jLinkCall() > > > > in the time it has taken me to prepare this others have shed some light. > > > > I will be looking in to this information which I will be looking into > > myself. > > > > bake on !! > > > > > > On 08/02/07, fredBH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > hi everyone! > > > > > > im going to start develop and im see some guys using jquery... others > > > using normal ajax cake prototype... and i just wanna know what the > > > diference of them... > > > I had searched about jquery but i dont understand how can it change > > > about ajax call from Prototype... > > > > > > Can someone help showing me what do some uses jquery e some uses > > > Prototype ? > > > Articles... Tutorials... anything helpfull... > > > > > > Thx a lot guys > > > bye > > > -- > [web] http://synapsisdi.com.br > [livesets] http://djspark.com.br/mp3 > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
