Completely agree with your comments. Just to make it clear, I am not the one concerned with the tone. bbuchs is the poster that was concerned with the sharpness of the response. I appreciate your efforts on the project and will continue to work to see where I can help and not be a distraction.
Thanks, On Apr 11, 4:57 pm, "nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John's right, you're reading way into it. I mean, would you rather > not be updated on the status of the feature? If it was a major > priority, I would have given a definite time frame, but it's not, so I > can't (not that it isn't an important feature). Besides, if I was > trying to give you an attitude, suggesting that you're obnoxious, or > insinuating that you're bugging the crap out of me, believe me, you'd > know. > > Also, you may want to consider that we're a small team doing a whole > lot of work, including coding, testing, writing documentation (no, I'm > not kidding) and answering everyones' questions. More often than not, > "I don't like your attitude" is basically the thanks we get. > > The other thing we get a lot of is people saying "you should change X > to work like this," or "you should add feature Y". No, we shouldn't. > CakePHP is the lean, mean framework it is today because we say 'no' a > lot more often than 'yes'. That's why 'should' isn't a word you want > to approach an Open Source project or team member with. I'm not > reading into buzznut's intention here (I'm giving him the benefit of > the doubt, since he's right anyway), I'm just speaking in general > terms. If you think you have a good idea for a feature, great. Write > a patch, submit a ticket, and we'll think about it (again, buzznut, > not directed at you, I just happen to be on a roll right now). > > Now, I've spent a lot of time ranting lately. Contrary to popular > belief, I don't enjoy it. It's a pain and it wastes my time; time that > I could be spending writing code. Unfortunately, however, you people > can't read my mind (not that I expect you to), and while I greatly > appreciate the fact that the vast majority of you on this list are > intelligent and well-intentioned, the fact is, every once in a while, > someone gets certain ideas into their heads, or just says something > downright stupid (as we saw recently in another thread). When that > happens, those people need to be corrected. I mean hey, somebody's > got to do it. Gwoo's the good cop, and we try not to let PhpNut stop > coding, so that pretty much leaves me. > > On Apr 11, 4:21 pm, "bbuchs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 11, 2:11 pm, "nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> That functionality > > is still in progress. It'll be done when it's done. > > > =================================== > > > OK, this is off-topic, but the tone of Nate's response has become all > > too common. I'm not saying it's one person or another, but I have > > certainly seen a generally negative vibe coming from some of the > > leadership. And that's putting it mildly. > > > What's with the attitude? It's not helping anyone, and it's really > > turning me off. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
