Same here. Symfony is a pain to install. I still beg someone to write
a detailed book on Cake.

On Jul 16, 8:29 am, "Sam Sherlock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> cake installed and working in seconds flat
>
> symfony waded through documentation for a couple of hours with not much to
> show for it
>
> Now, now.  Let's look at the competition fairly.  I think the only
>
> > place where Symfony has CakePHP beat is the humungous amounts of
> > documentation they have vomited out.
>
> but still got no where with it.  and managed to get things going with cake
> sparse documentation
>
> Once you're a little way in you'll know which you prefer and can then carry
>
> > on the project with the framework that you feel most comfortable with.
>
> Small & large projects can be made with various pieces of cake.  And its not
> over complicated.
>
> Cake's documentation is sure to improve;
>
> On 16/07/07, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > There are few articles on the web that compare the two frameworks from
> > peoples real world experience, and those may be useful to you. Just
> > search for symfony vs. cake
>
> > When we were exploring this, about as quickly as we recognised that
> > the Zend framework was on the wrong track (less than 30 mins :), we
> > found that Cake was very appealing for number of reasons. It was
> > trivial to get started, which is not a great reason but an influential
> > one none the less and might be important to you, it's extensible,
> > promotes some good design concepts and conventions, and has many
> > concepts that fitted well with our own experience - in essence, it
> > felt "right". Once you've had a taste of it so to speak, you would
> > probably find that there's no upside to doing anything non-trivial
> > without it.
>
> > We've only looked at Symfony briefly and it seems much harder to get
> > started, but to be fair and inevitably like most cake users, we
> > haven't tried it yet as once you find something that you like, the
> > search for a solution tends to stop.
>
> > As we explored further, we found that Cake isn't without problems, and
> > it has some things that would have benefited from being done
> > differently. Cake also uses arrays for representing model data, and
> > this has some quite wide implications. However that area is planned
> > for improvement in Cake 2.x and if you're not used to OO design then
> > you might not care or even notice. On the flipside, Cake has a concept
> > for use with Controllers called Components, and we threw together a
> > Component that by simply referencing in a Controller, gives us the
> > class based view of data that we were missing. Being able to assist or
> > solve issues with a bit of code and have it applied across the board
> > in seconds is appealing, and there various other neat concepts.
>
> > Frameworks are largely a matter of preference, and what one person
> > feels happy with or considers better may be different to the next
> > person. Trying both Cake and symfony for real, perhaps in parallel on
> > the same real world project, may be the best way to decide. Once
> > you're a little way in you'll know which you prefer and can then carry
> > on the project with the framework that you feel most comfortable with.
>
> > Good luck!


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