On Jan 24, 9:42 pm, "b logica" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 24, 2008 4:36 PM, Doug @ Straw Dogs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'm a developer by heart and know I'd love to code in CakePHP. > > However, I'm failing to see any solid business benifit in using it > > that can help me sell it to the directors. > > I'm still just learning the ropes here so I don't have much to offer, > but I do have to say that some of the terse responses here are very > disappointing. That they come from some of the very people who one > should expect to offer the most thoughtful and cogent sales pitch for > Cake is terrible. Telling Doug to get out of Dodge is ridiculous. Do > you want this framework to be accepted by more people? Or do you pine > for the good old days, when Cake was something only a very small group > of developers worked on? I'm guessing not, and that you'd like it to > continue gaining in popularity.
Having this framework "accepted" by more people would be great, but I don't *need* it to be. As far as a "sales pitch," that's not really my job. My job is to build the best damn PHP framework I possibly can, and if other people find it useful, so much the better. So if I'm having to spend my time on a sales pitch to every person who comes to me with how their superiors don't see the business benefits of Cake (and there have been a few, so before asking again, you may want to try searching around here a bit), then that's time I'm spending not doing my job. For people who are trying to figure out how to "sell" the framework (or anything else for that matter) to the boss, my suggestion is: *use it*. Rather than simply parroting what other people say, dig into it and find out for yourself what the business benefits are. Because nothing beats a first-hand testimonial when it comes to sales pitches. Now, if you try it out, and you still aren't able to articulate the benefits to your boss, then we've run up against one of two possibilities. Either: (a) There are no business benefits. In which case you don't want to use it anyway. - or - (b) You've discovered an opportunity for personal development and potential career enhancement. Find out about the available communications courses at your local community college, take a couple, then revisit the discussion with your boss. Now, over the past two or so years, I've been pretty lucky in that by- and-large, the CakePHP community is an intelligent, talented bunch of folks, and the way we do things around here makes the group somewhat self-selecting, which I think is a good thing. We're pretty good at helping out with the technical questions, but when it comes to why you should use the framework, this is not something you should need to be told. Not only does the work speak for itself, but it's backed by myriads of case studies and technical articles demonstrating how companies have put it to good use and benefitted greatly. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
