As for not knowing how to use the tests, you should really correct
that ;)  Unit Testing will make your life easier in the long run.

-Mark

On Oct 7, 8:47 am, 703designs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Like I said,
>
> > > Just a thought.
>
> On Oct 7, 6:03 am, "Marcin Domanski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > its not a 'poll' problem. Cake uses tests and include them so people
> > can contribute tests , adding another obstacle for them (downloading
> > testsuite etc)  is not good. Why the tests are a problem for you ?
> > can't you rm them if you dont need them ? i can't see where is the
> > problem.
> > --
> > Marcin Domanskihttp://kabturek.info
>
> > On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 6:45 AM, 703designs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Just a thought. You should run a poll of Cake developers (those who
> > > develop with Cake, not core developers) and see how many people use
> > > these extra parts. Can't hurt to know which "extras" are the most
> > > popular.
>
> > > On Oct 6, 4:18 pm, Yodiaditya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> I'm agree with you nate. Actually, i never using testing cause don't know
> > >> how to use it.
> > >> But, in another cases, testing is needed not only for test your sweet 
> > >> cake
> > >> before product it. But also give us test the cake for bugs...
>
> > >> On 10/7/08, Nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > >> > The tweet was just me venting my frustration over an unrelated issue,
> > >> > I happened to think the timeliness was funny though.
>
> > >> > Anyway, as far as the "wasted bandwidth" argument, I have to say that
> > >> > seems a bit silly.  Even the largest of the packages weighs in at less
> > >> > than 1.2mb.  Anyway, the tests are included for lots of reasons, not
> > >> > the least of which being that it helps us as core developers, but also
> > >> > the fact that it promotes visibility of testing within the community,
> > >> > as well as the ability for people to verify (or more commonly to
> > >> > verify the absence of) bugs.
>
> > >> > On Oct 6, 2:05 pm, 703designs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> > > Ah, that makes sense. I'm pretty sure that Nate's suggestion was
> > >> > > uncalled for, but he's helped me enough with Cake stuff over the last
> > >> > > year that I know it's in good spirit.
>
> > >> > > Here's a question: Why are the tests included? Why not make them a
> > >> > > separate download? I mean, yes, if they're distributed together, you
> > >> > > know for sure that the test match the framework package. But you guys
> > >> > > are certainly wasting bandwidth on the test files.
>
> > >> > > Thomas
>
> > >> > > On Oct 6, 1:56 pm, Gwoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > >> > > > Test cases account for at least two thirds of the overall package
> > >> > > > size. In my opinion, thats a good thing.
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