>> It would be nice if LuCI could infer information about the likely
>> overheads from the rest of the configuration, and apply (or suggest &
>> default) the correct keywords in sqm-scripts. That would make the
>> feature much more widely used.
> 
> We can probably do this for the most common cases, but am not so sure
> it's unambiguous when to pick what. If someone can supply a couple of
> examples of configuration where we are fairly certain we know what to
> pick, I can look into how that can be inferred in luci…

The most obvious cases are where there is an ADSL or VDSL modem built into the 
router, as there is on my Buffalo WBMR (though I don’t currently have a working 
ADSL line to demonstrate a live example).  SQM on the WAN-facing interfaces 
which (directly or indirectly) use that modem should then infer the PPP and ATM 
modes from the modem’s configuration, which I know is visible to LuCI in some 
form.

It’s slightly less obvious what to do with a standalone router, where there is 
a separate modem handling the PPP endpoint, thus the WAN interface appears in 
all respects to be Ethernet.  For this case, an easy way of setting the 
“conservative”, “bridged-ptm" or “pppoe-ptm” keywords should do the trick, 
perhaps with “conservative” being the sane default.  The PTM keywords are 
better suited to VDSL installations.  I suspect cable and cell modems may work 
best *without* overhead compensation.

As for the “conservative” keyword, it assumes ATM encapsulation and exactly one 
ATM cell of inner encapsulation overhead, the latter exceeding all known 
combinations of inner encapsulation used in practice (except for bizarre cases 
involving IP-in-IP tunnelling).  It’s intended to be a reasonable default where 
it is known or suspected that encapsulation is in use, but no specifics are 
known.

Sebastian seems to have more detailed information about what encapsulation 
combinations are actually in use in Germany, and can doubtless advise on how 
these show up in LuCI on an ADSL router.

 - Jonathan Morton

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