I don't quite understand this. Diffserv may exist, but no Internet operators support it. It may be "supported" in edge devices, but since the "service" is in the network queueing, who cares?
The Linux gamer market is rounding error in the global game community. And console gamers depend on the ISP's non-implementation. Caveat: I have said for years that diffserv's huge list of codepoints is essentially the result of a committee that has gone wild, creating a standard that is missing any useful path to adoption. There's no computable "translation" of the vague descriptions in the standard to a predictable router queueing behavior. This is super true in places like LTE, where you can observe bad congestion and bufferbloat even today. Discussing what codepoint means what is like discussing trivia about an imaginary fantasy land. -----Original Message----- From: "Dave Taht" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 8:34pm To: "Jonathan Morton" <[email protected]> Cc: "Cake List" <[email protected]>, "Make-Wifi-fast" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Cake] gaming dscp codepoint? On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 5:06 PM Jonathan Morton <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 25 Jul, 2018, at 3:01 am, Dave Taht <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > cs4? > > > > cs4 and cs5 end up (typically) in the (oft buggy) linux vi queue on wifi. > > > > ef? > > > > do any of the gamers here observe any codepoints in use? When I > > surveyed this a few years ago, I saw very little usage, and what > > little there was was all over the map. > > If it were up to me, Wasn't my question. Do you observe any of your games using any codepoints? >I would use EF for realtime position/command updates and voice comms, CS0 for >everything non-time-critical (like matchmaking, garage, shop), and CS1 for >downloading patches. Well, I was leaning towards cs4. I no longer remember what ef maps into on linux wifi, particularly since qos_map_set was created for hostapd. Is openwrt tweaking that at all? These days my aps do not use 802.11e at all and I'm about to push a change forcing a max of 2ms per AC via the beacon. Clients on campus don't seem to use much dscp but I'm certainly seeing ecn from apple devices now. > > Reason is, EF is the only DSCP I can count on being interpreted as "latency > sensitive" rather than "for video streaming". > > - Jonathan Morton > -- Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-669-226-2619 _______________________________________________ Make-wifi-fast mailing list [email protected] https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast -- Reed Online Ltd is a company registered in England and Wales. Company Registration Number: 6317279.Registered Office: Academy Court, 94 Chancery Lane, London WC2A 1DT. _______________________________________________ Cake mailing list [email protected] https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake
