Hi Erik, On 11 October 2022 08:08:14 CEST, Taraldsen Erik <erik.tarald...@telenor.no> wrote: > > >On 10/10/2022, 22:23, "Cake on behalf of Sebastian Moeller via Cake" ><cake-boun...@lists.bufferbloat.net on behalf of cake@lists.bufferbloat.net> >wrote: > > > [SM] Tricky... e.g. vectoring enabled CPE can be instructed by the > DSLAM to send error samples in-band with the data, but that traffic is never > seen by our shapers, so to account for that we need to set a fraction that > allows for that (more or less) periodic traffic. I guess one can reach a > point of "goog enough" even when ignoring such eventualities, especially if > having to convince through-put hot-rodders. Always interesting to hear > experience from the real world, thanks! > >In my bussiness we can't let perfect be the enemy of good. If we were to wait >for the perfect firmware, nobody would have internet access at all. Our team >moto is "suck less". Meaning we know there are issues with all products we >take to market. And to get to market at all we unfortunately need to accept >some suckiness in one domain or another. So when we follow up the vendors >each new firmware has to suck less.
[SM] Great I like the focus on improvement! I wish my ISP were similarly enlightend. Regards Sebastian > >-Erik > -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. _______________________________________________ Cake mailing list Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake