Hi Erik,

On 11 October 2022 08:08:14 CEST, Taraldsen Erik <erik.tarald...@telenor.no> 
wrote:
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>On 10/10/2022, 22:23, "Cake on behalf of Sebastian Moeller via Cake" 
><cake-boun...@lists.bufferbloat.net on behalf of cake@lists.bufferbloat.net> 
>wrote:
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>       [SM] Tricky... e.g. vectoring enabled CPE can be instructed by the 
> DSLAM to send error samples in-band with the data, but that traffic is never 
> seen by our shapers, so to account for that we need to set a fraction that 
> allows for that (more or less) periodic traffic. I guess one can reach a 
> point of "goog enough" even when ignoring such eventualities, especially if 
> having to convince through-put hot-rodders. Always interesting to hear 
> experience from the real world, thanks!
>
>In my bussiness we can't let perfect be the enemy of good. If we were to wait 
>for the perfect firmware, nobody would have internet access at all.  Our team 
>moto is "suck less".  Meaning we know there are issues with all products we 
>take to market. And to get to market at all we unfortunately need to accept 
>some suckiness in one domain or another.  So when we follow up the vendors 
>each new firmware has to suck less. 

[SM] Great I like the focus on improvement! I wish my ISP were similarly 
enlightend.

Regards
       Sebastian


>
>-Erik
>

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