Hi Jonathan

> On Sep 28, 2023, at 13:44, Jonathan Morton via Cake 
> <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 19 Sep, 2023, at 1:07 am, Jonathan Morton <chromati...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Raspberry Pi 4's just aren't very good at networking because of their I/O 
>>> architecture on the board, just as they are slow at USB in general. That's 
>>> why the CM4 is interesting. It's interesting that the PiHole has gotten so 
>>> popular - it would run better on an Pi with a better network architecture.
>> 
>> On the contrary, the Pi 4 has an excellent I/O architecture compared to most 
>> of its peers, and especially compared to the previous Pis.  The built-in NIC 
>> is internal to the SoC and *NOT* attached via USB any more, so it can 
>> genuinely support gigabit speeds.  The USB interface is also fast enough to 
>> support a second GigE NIC, though the latency wouldn't be as good as one 
>> attached over PCIe.  That's with a standard, off-the-shelf Pi 4B.
> 
> Timely breaking news:  the Raspberry Pi 5 has just been announced.
> 
> The important new feature here (for us) is that it exposes a PCIe bus lane on 
> the standard model, so you don't have to mess around with the Compute Module 
> just to get access to that.  The built-in Ethernet port is now implemented in 
> a PCIe-attached "southbridge" chip, and the WiFi performance has been 
> improved by accelerating the interface by which the radio is attached.

        [SM] More things on the plus side:
4 A76 cores up to 2.4 GHz (versus 4 A72 cores up to 1.8 Ghz)
4 x 512 KB L2 cache plus shared 2 MB L3 cache (versus 1 MB shared L2)
LPDDR4X-4266 memory (versus LPDDR4-2400)

This promises even better performance for loads like cake than the already 
pretty nifty pi4B


> 
> On the downside, the price has gone up.

        [SM] As well as the power consumption...


> 
> - Jonathan Morton
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