JIRA is separate, we can assign issues to you (if you so wish). On 9/7/12 4:51 PM, "Shazron" <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Registration is open - let us know what your user account is once you >do that, for assigning issues to yourself you need us to add you to a >contributors group. > >On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Mike Reinstein <reinstein.m...@gmail.com> >wrote: >> Okay, will do. Any feedback on the other comments? I'll proceed with >> merging the cordova-client and command line tooling spec next. I >>suppose it >> probably makes sense for me to start working out of JIRA so these tasks >>can >> be tracked. Is registration open or do I need to get permission from an >> admin for an account? >> >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com> wrote: >> >>> Sorry for the late reply, this looks awesome! >>> >>> The one modification I would do is remove "www" as a platform (you >>>have a >>> comment in there about that too). >>> >>> On 9/5/12 7:12 PM, "Mike Reinstein" <reinstein.m...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >> eventually we will move pluginstall into apache >>> >Okay, I wasn't sure if that would happen, so I went with the slightly >>>more >>> >conservative assumption, that pluginstall might live separately from >>> >cordova-client. But I get the impression this is a left-over notion >>>from >>> >when Andrew first built pluginstall and it wasn't clear then whether >>>or >>> >not >>> >it would take hold. >>> > >>> >I've got an initial version of the merged documentation for the >>> >pluginstall >>> >command line tool, and the specification doc. It's here >>> >https://github.com/mreinstein/pluginstall >>> > >>> >I've also added some comments on possible changes. Overall the doc is >>> >pretty tight, so it's largely unchanged. Would really appreciate >>> >constructive feedback on this. If it looks right I'll send a pull >>>request >>> >to alunny, and then proceed with merging cordova-client design doc >>>into >>> >the >>> >README on github. >>> > >>> >-Mike >>> > >>> >On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com> wrote: >>> > >>> >> +1 ! >>> >> >>> >> (I THINK) eventually we will move pluginstall into apache (assuming >>>the >>> >> authors are cool with that) so it will go 2 docs -> 1 doc. >>> >> >>> >> On 9/3/12 1:49 PM, "Brian LeRoux" <b...@brian.io> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >love it >>> >> > >>> >> >On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Mike Reinstein >>> >><reinstein.m...@gmail.com> >>> >> >wrote: >>> >> >> Ah ok, thanks for the clarification. I've had a chance to review >>>the >>> >> >>docs >>> >> >> more carefully. I'm really impressed with how well written they >>>are. >>> >> >>What I >>> >> >> *think* makes the most sense is to consolidate into fewer >>>documents >>> >>so >>> >> >>that >>> >> >> it's not necessary to look at so many seperate places. Here's >>>what I >>> >> >> propose: >>> >> >> * merge the cordova-plugin-spec into the alunny/pluginstall >>>README.md >>> >> >> * merge the command line tooling design doc into the >>>cordova-client >>> >> >> README.md >>> >> >> * pull apart the cordova/PluginDesign wiki page and merge parts >>>of it >>> >> >>into >>> >> >> the above 2 docs >>> >> >> >>> >> >> I think what this gets us is 2 docs instead of 5, and it still >>> >>maintains >>> >> >> the nice loose coupling between alunny's pluginstall utility and >>>the >>> >> >>larger >>> >> >> cordova-client. I'm assuming this separation was the original >>>intent, >>> >> >> rather than having one monolithic tool. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Would love feedback on this, I don't want to waste time doing it >>>and >>> >> >>find >>> >> >> out this isn't appropriate. :) >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com> wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> Cordova-client depends on pluginstall. Pluginstall does the hard >>> >>work >>> >> >>>for >>> >> >>> programmatic plugin installation, which is just one of the apis >>> >> >>>available >>> >> >>> in cordova-client. So, cordova=client "shells out" to >>>pluginstall. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> The client also handles app creation, platform >>>removal/addition, and >>> >> >>> interpolating information from app's config.xml into the >>>necessary >>> >> >>>spots >>> >> >>> in each native project. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> On 8/31/12 12:32 PM, "Mike Reinstein" <reinstein.m...@gmail.com> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >Hey Filip, >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> >One thing I"m curious about, whats the difference between >>> >> >>> >https://github.com/alunny/pluginstall and >>> >> >>> >>> >>>https://github.com/apache/incubator-cordova-labs/tree/cordova-client >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> >there seems to be some overlap there. Is pluginstall a subset >>>of >>> >> >>> >functionality just related to plugins that has moved into >>> >> >>>cordova-client >>> >> >>> >or >>> >> >>> >is it different? >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> >It seems like cordova-client is the most mature codebase that >>> >> >>>incorporates >>> >> >>> >a lot of ideas, so I'm just chasing down code I'm finding to >>>see if >>> >> >>> >everythign is in cordova-client or not. Said differently, is it >>> >>safe >>> >> >>>to >>> >> >>> >assume that just about all the worthwhile code is in >>> >>cordova-client? >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> >-Mike >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> >On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com> >>>wrote: >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> >> All looks good to me Mike. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I think the "PluginDesign" wiki article would be a great >>>place to >>> >> >>> >> summarize / revamp all this info. Appreciate you tackling >>>this! >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On 8/31/12 11:59 AM, "Mike Reinstein" >>><reinstein.m...@gmail.com> >>> >> >>>wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >Hey Filip, Brian: >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >I think where I'd like to start is on documentation. I may >>>be >>> >>wrong >>> >> >>> >>about >>> >> >>> >> >this, but it seems like there are bits and pieces of docs in >>> >> >>>various >>> >> >>> >> >places, and some may be stale or irrelevant. Maybe a good >>>start >>> >>is >>> >> >>>for >>> >> >>> >>me >>> >> >>> >> >to find all these pieces, consolidate into a "master" >>>document, >>> >>and >>> >> >>> >>cull >>> >> >>> >> >out the outdated bits? As a start, here's my rephrasing of >>>the >>> >> >>>various >>> >> >>> >> >links, etc that you've sent to me. Please take a look and >>>let me >>> >> >>>know >>> >> >>> >>if >>> >> >>> >> >I've characterised the content/purpose of these various >>>links: >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >*The spec for how plugins are declared is here: >>> >> >>> >> >https://github.com/alunny/cordova-plugin-spec >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >The implementation that manages plugin usage is here: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> >>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-cordova-labs/tree/cordova-client >>> >> >>> >> >This project encompasses more than just plugins because it >>>also >>> >> >>>handles >>> >> >>> >> >everything related to building, deploying, and managing >>>cordova >>> >> >>> >> >applications >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >These plugins are most popular, and should ideally work >>>with the >>> >> >>> >> >cordova-client implemenation: >>> >> >>> >> >http://github.com/phonegap/phonegap-plugins* >>> >> >>> >> >* >>> >> >>> >> >* >>> >> >>> >> >This implementation by Drew was an initial proof of concept, >>> >>which >>> >> >>>only >>> >> >>> >> >works for blackberry and has been abandoned in favor of >>> >> >>>cordova-client, >>> >> >>> >> >with much of his ideas having made it into cordova-client: >>> >> >>> >> >https://github.com/deedubbu/cordova-blackberry-pluggable >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >This doc contains some info on the format of the command >>>line >>> >> >>>interface >>> >> >>> >> >and >>> >> >>> >> >directory structure of cordova-client: >>> >> >>> >> >http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/CommandLineToolingDesign >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >This doc contains some documentation on Drew's old >>> >>implementation, >>> >> >>>and >>> >> >>> >>is >>> >> >>> >> >out of date now: >>> >> >>> >> >http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/PluginDesign >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >I want to emphasize that I'm just trying to get a handle on >>>what >>> >> >>>docs >>> >> >>> >>are >>> >> >>> >> >relevant and which links contain what. I'm not judging >>>anyone's >>> >> >>>work or >>> >> >>> >> >anything like that. :) If I've got the wrong idea about what >>> >>these >>> >> >>> >>links >>> >> >>> >> >represent or contain, _please_ let me know. >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >-Mike >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >* >>> >> >>> >> >* >>> >> >>> >> >* >>> >> >>> >> >* >>> >> >>> >> >* >>> >> >>> >> >* >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com> >>> >>wrote: >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> The cordova client CLI tooling top-level project goes >>> >> >>>hand-in-hand >>> >> >>> >>with >>> >> >>> >> >> this spec. Code here: >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>>https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-cordova-labs.git;a=s >>> >> >>>h >>> >> >>> >> >>or >>> >> >>> >> >> tlog;h=refs/heads/cordova-client >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> Essentially: vet the spec out to make sure popular >>>plugins out >>> >> >>>in the >>> >> >>> >> >>wild >>> >> >>> >> >> (see github.com/phonegap/phonegap-plugins) work with this >>> >>spec. >>> >> >>>Do >>> >> >>> we >>> >> >>> >> >>need >>> >> >>> >> >> to account for anything else? >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> I think the one outstanding question is how to handle >>> >> >>>installation / >>> >> >>> >> >> compatibility with different versions of cordova. >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> Documentation for the tool as well as the spec (put it on >>>the >>> >> >>>wiki, >>> >> >>> >> >> perhaps) would be awesome! >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> On 8/25/12 10:23 AM, "Mike Reinstein" >>> >><reinstein.m...@gmail.com> >>> >> >>> >>wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >Hi Brian, Filip, >>> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> >Thanks for the pointers to those projects. I'd love to >>>dig in >>> >> >>>and >>> >> >>> >>start >>> >> >>> >> >> >helping, where do you feel the most help is needed at the >>> >> >>>moment? >>> >> >>> >> >> >Documentation? Any specific code tasks? >>> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> >-Mike >>> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> >On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Filip Maj >>><f...@adobe.com> >>> >> >>>wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> >> Also, this is the current de-facto plugin "spec" we are >>> >> >>>working >>> >> >>> >> >>towards: >>> >> >>> >> >> >> https://github.com/alunny/cordova-plugin-spec >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> On 8/6/12 8:20 PM, "Brian LeRoux" <b...@brian.io> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >Hi Mike, you've come to the right place! Currently the >>> >>plugin >>> >> >>> >> >>tooling >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >is being implemented by Anis, Fil, Michael, and >>>myself. >>> >> >>>(sorry >>> >> >>> >>for >>> >> >>> >> >>the >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >delayed response / many of us are on a summer break >>>after >>> >> >>> >>shipping >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >2.0) >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >We're loosely collaborating using this list, git, and >>> >>these >>> >> >>>wiki >>> >> >>> >> >>pages: >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >- http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/PluginDesign >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >- >>>http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/CommandLineToolingDesign >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >The dev is taking place a Cordova/Labs branch which >>>you >>> >>can >>> >> >>> >>preview >>> >> >>> >> >>on >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >the Github mirror here: >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-cordova-labs/tree/cordova-client >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >You will want to start by reading up on our contrib >>> >>process >>> >> >>>in >>> >> >>> >>the >>> >> >>> >> >> >>wiki: >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/ContributerWorkflow >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >And in the case of labs projects everything stays on >>>its >>> >>own >>> >> >>> >>branch >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >until such a time that we feel its solid for its own >>>repo. >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >* * * >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >Let me know any q's! >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Mike Reinstein >>> >> >>> >> >> >> ><reinstein.m...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Hey there, >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> I'm interested in contributing to the plugin system >>> >>that is >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>forthcoming. Is >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> this the right place to bring it up? Who are the >>>right >>> >> >>>people >>> >> >>> >>to >>> >> >>> >> >>talk >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>to? >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Where do you need the most help? I'm an experienced >>> >> >>>developer, >>> >> >>> >> >>have >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>worked >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> on a few phonegap based projects, and would love to >>>give >>> >> >>>back >>> >> >>> >>to >>> >> >>> >> >>the >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> community. >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> cheers, >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> -Mike >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>>
