I too have concerns about the type of music that is played for contra dances. It's not hard to not see a trend when looking at the last 50 year of contra dance music. What I think happens is that there's competitiion between bands. If a band want gigs, especially gigs playing for dance camps, their music has to stand out. So, over the years the music tends to get wilder and wilder, and at the same time straying from what the dancers really need.

I peronally know several fiddlers whose only concern is to wow the dancers. They have absolutely no awareness of what's going on on the dance floor. They are really not dancers themselves!!!! If there's good phrasing and a good beat it's often the result of chance. Likewise, the music at many of the dance camps I've called to often don't seem to support the dancers which is a shame. I usually enjoy calling to the 'lowly' workshop bands more than with the featured act. But the bands that play wild and crazy stuff get the good gigs. That sends a message to the others for sure.

It is possible to play exciting music and at the same time support the dances. We all probably know of many musicians who can do this. I've toyed with the idea of interviewing many of these fine musicians and making an instructional video. But, would the other musicians watch it?

The whole thing driving the contra dance revival is the dancers themselves. Their tastes and inputs are a compass not only for the music but the choreography as well. I'm thinking that those who value good solid music are in a minority. The majority of the dancers like what they hear but may not connect good solid music with good dancing.

My experience is that folks who have called, played or danced for a significant amount of time tend to come to this same conclusion about what makes for good dance music. It's also my experience that some of our dances and dance camps are run by relatively inexperienced dancers. So the question is, how to spread some wisdom around?

Tom




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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:30:56 -0500
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Caller's opinions on non-contra music at dances
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Hi all,

As a dancer with a wide range of musical tastes, I enjoy dancing to a wide variety of music. As a few of the respondents said, as long as there is clear phrasing and an appropriate, steady tempo, I'm happy contra dancing to just about anything. I actually prefer really interesting music instead of the same tune played the same way at the same volume for the entire dance.

As a musician who plays for contra dances, I also enjoy playing a wide
variety of music. My band ranges from celtic to classical to old- timey to Eastern European to jazz and blues and swing. We tend to stray quite far from the original melody. Having said that, as three of the members of the band are also callers and dancers, we are extremely aware that we need to clearly define the 8 bar and A1, A2, B1, B2 phrases for the dancers. On the occasion that we get feedback from dancers that they had to count during one of our tunes, we assume responsibility for adjusting our playing such that
we restore any missing structure to our tunes.

On the other hand, we've had many dancers say they sometimes forget to
concentrate on dancing because they so enjoy the music we're playing. Even though it's a compliment, we try to reserve those moments for our concert performances and not in dances. People come to a dance to dance and not
listen to us give a concert.

Great conversation.

Mark Hillegonds
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Subject: [Callers] Caller's opinions on non-contra music at dances

I'm looking for comments on a trend I've noticed in contra music,
specifically, bands playing music far removed from pieces traditionally associated with the form. The catalyst was a mid-December dance in the northwest where "as a special treat" the band shifted to rock music during the next-to-last contra. The caller had stopped and we were left to our own devices. The A/B parts and the beat were hard to pick out, and the dance began breaking down as people had to guess when one move ended and another began. I was there with a group of experienced dancers and our opinions were uniformly negative. This was not the only time the band's selection of
tunes was hard to follow, just the most excessive.

Over the last few years I've seen bands play "unusual" music in several locations across the country and at both regular dance series and dance
weekends.  There are some good examples in Youtube  (links provided
offline.) IMHO, contra music is an integral part of the dance, cuing on a
nearly subconscious level the changes between figures.  Having to
concentrate excessively on the timing takes emphasis off both the flow of
the dance and the interaction with fellow dancers.

Part of me can sympathize with the bands. It must be incredibly boring for talented musicians to play, say, Jefferson Reel over and over. On the other hand, they are hired to play for dancers, not each other, and some of the
extreme examples smack of self-indulgence.

I assume that essentially all of the members of this list are dancers and
that a number of you are also  musicians.  I wondered what the group's
feeling was on this and whether anyone felt it was a positive development.



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