lol.  thank you, jeff.  i'm sure that's exactly how i meant to explain it!!
 
but actually, you make a great point.  when i think of the most satisfying 
swings i've had, centrifugal force is a GREAT part of it.  that's why leaning 
back doesn't make sense - you should pull in.  centrifugal force pulls you back 
- no need to do it yourself.  in fact, i think that counteracting centrifugal 
force by pulling in is what makes the most satisfying swings seem totally 
effortless.   balance IS the key.
 
barb

 

> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 18:35:23 -0400
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Re Swinging
> 
> John Sweeney wrote:
> > 
> > > If the lady additionally has their left hand on the back of the
> > > the gent's right shoulder, then the lady is doing more of the
> > > holding together and the gent can do less.
> >
> > Centrifugal force is not that great - if you are in balance the
> > pressure is tiny.
> > 
> 
> I think you must be talking about much slower swings than I'm talking
> about. Let's say we have two 130 pound people who swing 3.5 times
> around in a balance and swing. Physics geekery [1] says it takes
> fourty pounds of force to hold the two of them together. I'd much
> rather have that split over two people.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> [1] Let's approximate the dancers as point masses of 130 pounds nine
> inches apart. There are 12 counts of swinging after the balance,
> so about six seconds. Rotating 3.5 times in six seconds means 35
> times in sixty seconds, or 35 rpm. Force here is M*w*w*r, where
> M is 130 pounds, w is 35rpm, and r is 4.5 inches. This gives
> 20lbf for each dancer, or 40lbf total.
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