I will agree that botching it is much worse than leaving it as is.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 19:55, George Mercer <[email protected]> wrote: > To be honest (and I do try to be), as a dancer I don't care all that much > about getting that last swing. Indeed, too many times callers attempt to > do it and botch it. Generally speaking, chaining across to a swing doesn't > work very well. Crossing the set for a last ditch swing also takes time and > the one or maybe two whirls seems to me to be somewhat disruptive. It's > okay if it works, but... > > Thanks, George > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> A data point, or something. Last Monday I attended a dance with Elixir, >> Nils >> Fredland calling and playing. This was a special dance in Palo Alto, >> California, where we don't get them very often. Hall full of happy people; >> still four lines all the way to 10:30 pm on a Monday night. >> >> I noticed that Nils didn't change the endings of _any_ contras. He would >> have >> had to put down the trombone to do it. (In fact, because I'd been thinking >> about the issue of endings and whether you're with your partner, I noticed >> that >> the band mostly finished a round of the dance/tune and then played a few >> additional ending notes, so that it more than once happened that you'd >> start >> the next round interacting with neighbor, who you then either have to turn >> away >> from to bow to partner, or acknowledge first to thank your partner.) >> >> One dancer commented to me on the tune endings. No dancer commented to me >> on >> changing or not changing to end with partner swing. Many dancers >> commented to >> me (as one of the organizers of the dance) on what a wonderful evening it >> was, >> what a great time they had, etc. >> >> I conclude that this is not an issue of overwhelming importance to most >> dancers - and yet still worth thinking about for callers. >> >> -- Alan >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 18:00:44 -0800 >> > >> From: [email protected] >> > >> To: [email protected] >> > >> Subject: [Callers] Changing on the last round for a partner swing >> > >> >> > >> Callers -- >> > >> >> > >> Looking for opinions. >> > >> >> > >> As a caller, I will usually alter (if necessary), the last dance of a >> medley, >> > >> the last dance of the first half, or the last dance of evening to end >> with a >> > >> partner swing if it doesn't work that way in the choreography. (You >> know, that >> > >> "This time, circle half and swing your partner" or "This time, just >> keep on >> > >> swinging!" thing.) >> > >> >> > >> I'll usually leave the other dances alone. They end how they end; the >> band >> > >> gets to crescendo and I don't have to be heard, and the dancers get >> something >> > >> other than utter predictability. >> > >> >> > >> (As a dancer I don't like utter predictability; I begin to get a >> teeny bit >> > >> bored if the callers changes every dance to end with a partner swing.) >> > >> >> > >> But I mentioned this to my date, and she *loves* it when the caller >> changes the >> > >> dance to make it a partner swing so that it feels like you're >> finishing with >> > >> the partner who asked you, and feels disappointed if the caller >> doesn't make >> > >> those changes. I mentioned the issue of stepping on the band's hot >> ending; as >> > >> a dancer, that meant nothing to her. >> > >> >> > >> So what do y'all think? What do you do? How you do think people like >> it? >> > >> >> > >> (Nobody's ever complained to me that I didn't alter endings enough, >> and I >> > >> doubt that's the kind of thing anybody complains to anybody about, >> but it >> > >> probably has some impact on dancers enjoyment of the evening.) >> > >> >> > >> Thanks! >> > >> >> > >> -- Alan >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> >> =============================================================================== >> > >> Alan Winston --- [email protected] >> > >> Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL Phone: >> 650/926-3056 >> > >> Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo Park CA >> 94025 >> > >> >> =============================================================================== >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> Callers mailing list >> > >> [email protected] >> > >> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Callers mailing list >> > > [email protected] >> > > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Callers mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers >> >> -- >> >> =============================================================================== >> Alan Winston --- [email protected] >> Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL Phone: >> 650/926-3056 >> Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo Park CA >> 94025 >> >> =============================================================================== >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers >> > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers
