Dancers who understand can wear badges that way "I allemande with a straight 
wrist"In fact, dance organizers can hand out badges or  labels with this to 
arriving dancers.

Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway      Urbana IL 61801       217-239-5844

--- On Tue, 3/13/12, Andrea Nettleton <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Andrea Nettleton <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Callers] Re Allemande Hold (was Analysis of Stars)
To: "Caller's discussion list" <[email protected]>
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Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2012, 9:38 PM

I don't know if seasoned dancers who engage in a bad habit are able to hear 
that they are in error.  In a new dancer workshop, I show and tell that the two 
dancers in an allemande are like two panes in a revolving door and their joined 
hands are like the post they turn around.  Their arms should be in a flat open 
W shape along the plane of the glass.  They should maintain the same relative 
position to one another.  If they do so, and keep their wrists flat, I say, 
they are well positioned to help one another around with the firm presence of 
their bodies flowing into their arms.  I demonstrate that when one person tries 
to speed up by curling their wrist and scooting faster than their complement, 
they not only break down all possibility of teamwork, but can do damage.  Here 
I make exaggerated contortions with my demo partner.  The point is generally 
well taken.  I don't know if one could get away with such a teaching point 
during the evening,
 unless you were doing a dance with
  an allemande 2X round and could justify trying to keep everyone safe while 
ensuring they had the tools to get all the way round twice?  I don't know.  I 
think uncurling the curled fists that people impose on us while dancing might 
be the best we can do for those with a deeply ingrained habit.
Andrea

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On Mar 13, 2012, at 8:42 PM, Chris Page <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Perry Shafran <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Speaking of allemandes - is there ANY way to teach experienced dancers to 
>> not bend their wrists when they allemande?  The wrist is supposed to be 
>> straight, not bent, as bending can cause pain to the other person's wrist 
>> (generally mine).  Nowadays when I find a person allemande with a bent wrist 
>> I go ahead and keep mine straight and sacrifice a good allemande with weight 
>> for protecting my arm and wrist.
> 
> 
> 
> I wish I knew. I was teaching a pre-dance workshop at another place
> and some of the "helpful" experienced dancers in the session were
> steadfastly insisting that the bent wrist alternative was the only
> safe one. Is there any way to deal with that without getting into an
> noisy argument while the new dancers are trying to sort this stuff
> out?
> 
> -Chris Page
> San Diego
> 
> p.s. I'm not bothered by the hidden thumbs. The allemandes work fine
> either way. The hidden thumbs just means the person's been hurt in the
> past and is protecting themselves.
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