On giving weight, at least for allemandes: Think of your arm as spring--as it is extended, you pull, as it is compressed, you push--with the goal of maintaining comfortable tension with the other person
Michael Fuerst 802 N Broadway Urbana IL 61801 217-239-5844 --- On Tue, 3/13/12, Bob Green <[email protected]> wrote: From: Bob Green <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Callers] Re Allemande Hold (was Analysis of Stars) To: "Caller's discussion list" <[email protected]> List-Post: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2012, 11:04 PM The straight wrist is , of course, not the whole story...it also requires keeping your hand out away from your body. You can keep your wrist perfetly straight. and tweak the crap out of the other dancer by pulling in too far. I believe this is one point where it is important to clarify what "giving weight" is all about. Bob On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Michael Fuerst <[email protected]>wrote: > Dancers who understand can wear badges that way "I allemande with a > straight wrist"In fact, dance organizers can hand out badges or labels > with this to arriving dancers. > > Michael Fuerst 802 N Broadway Urbana IL 61801 217-239-5844 > > --- On Tue, 3/13/12, Andrea Nettleton <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Andrea Nettleton <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Callers] Re Allemande Hold (was Analysis of Stars) > To: "Caller's discussion list" <[email protected]> > Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2012, 9:38 PM > > I don't know if seasoned dancers who engage in a bad habit are able to > hear that they are in error. In a new dancer workshop, I show and tell > that the two dancers in an allemande are like two panes in a revolving door > and their joined hands are like the post they turn around. Their arms > should be in a flat open W shape along the plane of the glass. They should > maintain the same relative position to one another. If they do so, and > keep their wrists flat, I say, they are well positioned to help one another > around with the firm presence of their bodies flowing into their arms. I > demonstrate that when one person tries to speed up by curling their wrist > and scooting faster than their complement, they not only break down all > possibility of teamwork, but can do damage. Here I make exaggerated > contortions with my demo partner. The point is generally well taken. I > don't know if one could get away with such a teaching point during the > evening, > unless you were doing a dance with > an allemande 2X round and could justify trying to keep everyone safe > while ensuring they had the tools to get all the way round twice? I don't > know. I think uncurling the curled fists that people impose on us while > dancing might be the best we can do for those with a deeply ingrained habit. > Andrea > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 13, 2012, at 8:42 PM, Chris Page <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Perry Shafran <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Speaking of allemandes - is there ANY way to teach experienced dancers > to not bend their wrists when they allemande? The wrist is supposed to be > straight, not bent, as bending can cause pain to the other person's wrist > (generally mine). Nowadays when I find a person allemande with a bent > wrist I go ahead and keep mine straight and sacrifice a good allemande with > weight for protecting my arm and wrist. > > > > > > > > I wish I knew. I was teaching a pre-dance workshop at another place > > and some of the "helpful" experienced dancers in the session were > > steadfastly insisting that the bent wrist alternative was the only > > safe one. Is there any way to deal with that without getting into an > > noisy argument while the new dancers are trying to sort this stuff > > out? > > > > -Chris Page > > San Diego > > > > p.s. I'm not bothered by the hidden thumbs. The allemandes work fine > > either way. The hidden thumbs just means the person's been hurt in the > > past and is protecting themselves. > > _______________________________________________ > > Callers mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list [email protected] http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers
