On 1/2/2013 10:07 AM, Louise Siddons wrote:
I agree with Maia that there's a difference in "feel" between dancing the lead role and 
the follow role; that's why women (in my experience) ask each other if they have a preference when 
they dance together. Also the two roles do different things in certain figures: any dance form that 
has a fundamental figure called a "courtesy turn" is lead-follow imbalanced: a courtesy 
turn is by definition a led figure.

And when you pile up a bunch of figures that involve a certain amount of leading that tends to fall 
to one role more than the other, then you have a dance where there's a lead role and a following 
role. (I would include promenades and butterfly whirls in this category of led figures.) Yes, there 
are dances where the "unexpected" dancer leads these figures, but the very fact that it 
is unexpected (and that a gents' chain, for example, prompts murmuring and often a "hoho, you 
didn't expect that, did you?" tone from the caller) supports my point.
Didn't you just make an argument that the roles are different, rather than that they are inherently lead/follow figures? (For example, the Scots (and Fried Herman, following them) call the twiddle at the end of rights and lefts a "polite turn". Is that a led figure by definition? (It's usually done with same-sex neighbor.)

Similarly, "hoho, you didn't expect that, did you!" accompanies dances with same-sex swings, men gypsying, etc.

And on a similar front, English dancing has ladies chains, both open and with courtesy turns. Would you argue that English dance is inherently lead/follow?


My phenomenological experience is that dancers of both genders perceive themselves to be 
leading when in the role I am arguing is a lead role -- even going so far as to yank 
their partner into figures (there's a good way and a bad way to lead a dancer into a 
left-hand star). Maia is right that being in the lead role changes people's dance 
"attitude" (not always for the worse, of course; but dancing is performance and 
people tend to embrace that).
Maybe I'm just bossy, but I want to take responsbility for the whole dance working even if I'm dancing the woman's role. (And I know I can't trust all the neighbor men to leave me pointing the right way if I don't take responsibility for myself.)

I don't think you need this for the argument; there were flourishes when I started contra dancing in 1985 (but we called the people who did them "hot-doggers" and complained about them). The flourishers are conspicous and
they got copied.  Your argument can pick up from there.

The already-present lead-follow format has encouraged dancers coming from other 
forms to exploit the existing relationship to add in flourishes that then 
increase the feeling of lead/follow. Partly because of the structure of the 
contra dance figures, there are moments (coming out of a swing, for example) 
where dancers with a little bit of couple-dancing knowledge will find it a lot 
more natural to flourish by twirling the equivalent of the ballroom follow, 
rather than the lead. This connects to gender because, as several others have 
pointed out, the vast majority of the world genders leading and following along 
male/female lines.

I suspect that the best way to challenge people's gender-based assumptions is 
to teach them new behaviors rather than -- or along with -- new words. But 
what, exactly, is the goal of gender free dancing? Do we want both genders to 
feel comfortable in both roles because those roles are fundamentally different? 
Because in that case, we're stuck with a binary that is going to cling, 
epistemologically, to the history of the gender binary (because I hate to say 
it but many people seem to quite like that gender binary and the behavioral 
stereotypes that it entails -- especially the young dancers that we often say 
we would like to attract, and the older dancers who are the core of many 
communities).

But if the goal is to encourage people -- and contra dance forms -- to redistribute the 
lead-follow load so that it is more even, then we should be encouraging choreography that 
disrupts the mostly-led-by-one-half-of-the-room style that currently exists, and leading 
flourish workshops that, instead of saying "boys can dance with boys and the boy 
playing the boy part can twirl the boy playing the girl part," or similar, just 
teach people to twirl each other. And then, I don't know, use purple and green for the 
role names?

Louise.
(Stillwater, OK)


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