Greg,

I would agree with your idea that the leading/following comes from more
experienced dancers leading the newcomers, but I think that's tangential to
the discussion about what we call the roles. I don't believe anyone's
uniformly suggesting there's no "leading / following" in general, though,
yes, I realize simply stating, "Oh, there's no leading or following in
contra" is ambiguous and, technically speaking, you're correct. But I think
that's a matter of semantics; people saying that are speaking in the
context of roles between partners, and I don't think they're broadening it
to contra in general. (Though, it is an interesting thought to me to
consider how lead/follow is more of a community, whole-line-of-people thing
rather than a role thing. It probably has something to do with how I got
hooked into contra in the first place.)

In dance,
Ron

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Greg McKenzie <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Contra dance is not waltz, foxtrot, swing, or tango.  It also does not have
> "leader" and "follower" roles.  But it most certainly does have leads and
> follows, lots of them.
>
> This is an example of how the framings from couple dancing can be
> problematic when discussing called community dancing, and contras in
> particular.  The couple dances mentioned above use a very restricted
> meaning for their own purposes.  In the English language "lead" and
> "follow" have much broader meanings.  Schools of fish, flocks of birds,
> herds of deer, and groupings of many social insects all organize themselves
> with individuals "leading" and "following" each other.
>
> This is an important concept...particularly in social dance.  To suggest
> that people do not lead or follow in contra dance is to block any
> discussion of how this remarkable dance form *works*.  The core idea of
> "sweeping newcomers into the dance" is predicated on the assumption that
> the regulars are leading newcomers through the figures.
>
> I hope that those of you who suggest contras are not a "lead/follow" dance
> form will please "follow" my "lead" in this matter and allow us to use the
> common English meaning of the word to discuss a core concept that--I would
> argue--is more central to contras than it is to Tango or other partner
> dances.
>
> This misunderstanding could have great impacts on this dance form.  It
> appears that many contra dance callers have accepted the notion that
> "contras are not a lead/follow dance form" and the result is that they
> insist on teaching from the mike when the regulars could quickly lead the
> newcomers through the figures.
>
> This is an unfortunate situation in the contra dance movement.  We need to
> recognize that it is the ability of the regulars to lead the newcomers that
> makes this dance form so accessible.
>
> I know that this does not match the restricted way you learned to use these
> words.  But please allow us to use common English to discuss this core
> concept in contra dance.
>
> Just a thought.
>
> - Greg McKenzie
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