Well, just like athletes jump further and run and swim  faster today than they 
did thirty years ago, today contra dancers can circle once around in 8 beats
 
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 From: Greg McKenzie <[email protected]>
To: Caller's discussion list <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Callers] Circle left 3/4
 

I remember once being in a caller's workshop with Ted Sannella and he asked
us how many beats a circle took.  We answered "eight," and he said "No.  A
circle really takes 10 beats."

- Greg McKenzie
West Coast, USA

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On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 4:08 PM, James Saxe <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On Jun 6, 2013, at 12:19 PM, Chris Lahey wrote, on the subject
> of getting dancers to complete the sequence "circle left 3/4,
> pass through" in 8 beats:
>
>
>  Could you prompt the pass through with more emphasis?  Maybe
>>
>> 5 - 6 - circle - left - 1 - 2 - three - quarters - pass - through - 7 - 8?
>>
>> Or perhaps even "pass through now" with the now being on the 6 beat?
>> Or emphasize the balance beat so people realize they're late.
>>
>
> I think that this sequence is one for whihc it can be useful to
> prompt a figure--namely "pass through"--with the last beat of the
> call falling earlier than the beat just before the first beat of
> the action.  Specifically, I often time the words "pass through"
> so the word "through" falls on beat 4 of the circle, not beat 6.
> You can hear some examples of other callers doing the same in
> these videos:
>
>      
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=s_-uD_-nV6g<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_-uD_-nV6g>
>      (Steve Zakon-Anderson calls a contra medley at the Concord
>      Scout House.  Notice his timing on the third sequence in
>      the medley, Lisa Greenlef's "After the Solstice", wich
>      starts around 5:40.)
>
>      
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=MMInHQo4mJY<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMInHQo4mJY>
>      (Maggie Cowan calls "Black Bird in the Night" by Don
>      Flaherty.)
>
> The idea is that if you say the word "through" by beat 4, it will
> implicitly encourage slow circlers to pick up the pace.  If you
> say "pass through" on beats 5 and 6, it's already too late to help
> any dancers who haven't already gotten their circles turned 3/4 of
> the way around by the time you say "through".
>
> You could also try to explain the timing during the walk-through,
> either by using numbers of beats (six to circle left 3/4; two to
> pass through), or just by remarking that the time dancers have to
> circle left 3/4 and pass through is the same time that some dances
> allow for the circle 3/4 alone, so they (dancers) had better
> make the circle a little brisker than they might expect.  Beware
> that when you speak in declarative sentences or ask dancers to
> picture a move that they're not doing right now (e.g., talking
> about the timing of the circle while dancers are lined up after
> the walk-through and waiting for the music to start), there are
> likely to be some who won't be paying attention or who won't be
> able to visualize whatever part of the dance you're blabbing
> about.  On the other hand, a few dancers who already the basics of
> timing might pick up on your words and be a little more attentive
> about politely (I hope) helping their less experienced neighbors
> to be on time.
>
> It can also be helpful to have music that clearly telegraphs
> when it's coming around to the first beat of the figure after
> 'Pass Through".
>
> --Jim
>
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