Michael,  I guess that question should be directed at the person who first 
crafted the variation and called it 33334, not me.  I actually learned that 
version first.  Then I learned the original.  And in my notes and card the 
variation had that name, but was credited to SZA, as was the original.  That 
was long ago, and I don't remember the caller who called it, or where, but that 
is how I learned it.  I'd be interested in knowing who first came up with the 
variation and when it was introduced.  And, I'd be especially interested in 
Steve's comparison of the dances.

Bree, I don't disagree with you - 33333 is certainly a classic.  But the dance 
The Cherokee Shuffle, written by David Kaynor to the same named crooked tune, 
is also a classic, and the modern version that many of us have danced is often 
credited to Robert Cromartie, and that is the non-crooked version.  If 
something works, it works.  But even some of the old classics have modern 
contemporary versions. The folk process at work, again.

Dave Colestock
New Cumberland, PA     

--- On Thu, 6/20/13, Bree Kalb <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Bree Kalb <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Callers] Tampering with a classis aagain 3-33-33
To: [email protected], "Caller's discussion list" 
<[email protected]>, [email protected]
List-Post: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, June 20, 2013, 5:35 PM

I agree with Michael. Especially in the case of a classic.


-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael Barraclough <[email protected]>
>Sent: Jun 20, 2013 5:25 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Callers] Tampering with a classis aagain 3-33-33
>
>There are thousands of contras.  If one doesn't work, why not try
>another one instead of altering that one?
>
>Michael Barraclough
>
>
>
>On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 13:16 -0700, Dave C wrote:
>
>> Instead of the Ladies Dosido 1.5 at the end to progress, just have the 
>> Ladies AL 1 1/2 in the center, with RH ready for the next neighbor.  Some in 
>> the caller community have dubbed this version of the dance 3-33-34. 
>> 
>> Dave Colestock 
>> New Cumberland, PA
>> 
>> 
>> --- On Thu, 6/20/13, Kalia Kliban <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> From: Kalia Kliban <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Callers] Tampering with a classis aagain 3-33-33
>> To: "Caller's discussion list" <[email protected]>
>> Date: Thursday, June 20, 2013, 2:10 PM
>> 
>> I've had pretty good luck with it, possibly because I have the women ID the 
>> next neighbor early on.  They know which face to look for.  After that, they 
>> get a better feel for the area to aim for to find the new neighbor.  A 
>> couple of seriously disoriented dancers can really play havoc with this 
>> dance though.  It's brittle.
>> 
>> Kalia
>> 
>> On 6/20/2013 11:02 AM, Rickey Holt wrote:
>> > 3-33-33 lovers and callers - I have been calling this great dance recently
>> > and noticed that dancers of various experience levels in several venues 
>> > have
>> > had trouble with the transition in the B2 from the Ladies Do-si-do 1 1/2 to
>> > the balance with the next neighbor that starts the dance.  They have 
>> > trouble
>> > finding that next neighbor, even after several times through, and with
>> > translating the momentum of crossing the set to that of up and down the 
>> > line
>> > of the first part of the dance. I tried substituting an allemande right 1
>> > 1/2 for the do-si-do 1 1/2 of the original with little effect.  What about 
>> > a
>> > ladies allemande right about 1 1/2 to a next neighbor allemande left and
>> > then starting the dance again with a balance by the right with that
>> > neighbor?  Other solutions?  Have you or your dancers noticed the problem
>> > that I have seen.  As always, thanks for your thoughts.
>> > 
>> > Rickey Holt
>> 
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