Hi Maia,

It sounds like what you're talking about is a more complex version of
Michael Dyck's Contradance Index: http://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/index/.

So a publicly accessible database already exists, but it is only searchable
by title or author (not by figure or figure combination) and there is
actually no dance choreography in it (all search results are references to
where the dance is published elsewhere, either in print on online).

Dugan Murphy
Skowhegan, Maine


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> From: Maia McCormick via Callers <[email protected]>
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> Hi all,
>
> I'm currently in programming school casting about for programming projects,
> and I had the idea of a giant searchable contradance database, where you
> can filter by move combination, etc.
>
> My question: is this something people would be interested in having? Or
> does it run the risk of infringing on intellectual property, or
> shortchanging dance writers on book sales, etc.? (Obviously no dances would
> be included without the author's permission, but it may be that making a
> huge ton of dances freely available and searchable in one place online
> would be a death blow to published books of dances, or have some other
> negative effect I'm not foreseeing right now...)
>
> Anyway: does anyone have any thoughts on this project?
>
> Cheers,
> Maia
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> From: Jeff Kaufman via Callers <[email protected]>
> To: Maia McCormick <[email protected]>
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> I think this is a great idea, and the main non-technical limitation is
> writing to lots of callers to get their permission to include their
> dances.  Several people have proposed something similar, but the
> actual work of checking with lots of callers has been too daunting.
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Maia McCormick via Callers
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm currently in programming school casting about for programming
> projects,
> > and I had the idea of a giant searchable contradance database, where you
> can
> > filter by move combination, etc.
> >
> > My question: is this something people would be interested in having? Or
> does
> > it run the risk of infringing on intellectual property, or shortchanging
> > dance writers on book sales, etc.? (Obviously no dances would be included
> > without the author's permission, but it may be that making a huge ton of
> > dances freely available and searchable in one place online would be a
> death
> > blow to published books of dances, or have some other negative effect I'm
> > not foreseeing right now...)
> >
> > Anyway: does anyone have any thoughts on this project?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Maia
> >
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> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 11:54:14 -0400
> From: Aaron Redfern via Callers <[email protected]>
> To: Maia McCormick <[email protected]>
> Cc: Caller's discussion list <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Giant dance database?
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> My guess is a lot of people who write dances would be happy to contribute,
> but trying to wrangle all the callers and dances does seem pretty daunting.
>
> Presumably older dances are in the public domain, either by clearly defined
> intellectual property laws or implicitly via the folk process.  What if you
> started out by adding a ton of chestnuts and other older dances, and then
> when you had enough to show, you could open it up for people to contribute
> their newer dances directly?
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Maia McCormick via Callers <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm currently in programming school casting about for programming
> > projects, and I had the idea of a giant searchable contradance database,
> > where you can filter by move combination, etc.
> >
> > My question: is this something people would be interested in having? Or
> > does it run the risk of infringing on intellectual property, or
> > shortchanging dance writers on book sales, etc.? (Obviously no dances
> would
> > be included without the author's permission, but it may be that making a
> > huge ton of dances freely available and searchable in one place online
> > would be a death blow to published books of dances, or have some other
> > negative effect I'm not foreseeing right now...)
> >
> > Anyway: does anyone have any thoughts on this project?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Maia
> >
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> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:11:05 -0700
> From: Chris Page via Callers <[email protected]>
> To: Maia McCormick <[email protected]>
> Cc: Caller's discussion list <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Giant dance database?
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> During the recent caller's survey, I think a database of dances was at
> the top of the list of what online resource callers wanted.
>
> There have been several attempts at creating a dance database over the
> past decade-plus. They have all fizzled out, primarily for lack of
> volunteers with sufficient drive, free time, and coding experience to
> create such a beast.
>
> (Data entry and getting permissions requires less technical skill, and
> can be farmed out amongst a larger committee.)
>
> -Chris Page
> San Diego
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Maia McCormick via Callers
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm currently in programming school casting about for programming
> projects,
> > and I had the idea of a giant searchable contradance database, where you
> can
> > filter by move combination, etc.
> >
> > My question: is this something people would be interested in having? Or
> does
> > it run the risk of infringing on intellectual property, or shortchanging
> > dance writers on book sales, etc.? (Obviously no dances would be included
> > without the author's permission, but it may be that making a huge ton of
> > dances freely available and searchable in one place online would be a
> death
> > blow to published books of dances, or have some other negative effect I'm
> > not foreseeing right now...)
> >
> > Anyway: does anyone have any thoughts on this project?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Maia
> >
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> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:27:41 -0700
> From: Dave C via Callers <[email protected]>
> To: Maia McCormick <[email protected]>, Chris Page
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> I am curious.  I got Chris' reply email in my inbox today stamped at 1:11
> pm, but I never received the initial email from Maia that was sent at 7:46
> this morning.  I have noticed this on other occassions as well.  Is anyone
> else getting reply messages but not the initial message???  Can a mod
> please address this?  Thanks,
>
> Dave Colestock
>
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> On Mon, 7/28/14, Chris Page via Callers <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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>  Subject: Re: [Callers] Giant dance database?
>  To: "Maia McCormick" <[email protected]>
>  Cc: "Caller's discussion list" <[email protected]>
>  Date: Monday, July 28, 2014, 1:11 PM
>
>  During the recent caller's survey, I
>  think a database of dances was at
>  the top of the list of what online resource callers wanted.
>
>  There have been several attempts at creating a dance
>  database over the
>  past decade-plus. They have all fizzled out, primarily for
>  lack of
>  volunteers with sufficient drive, free time, and coding
>  experience to
>  create such a beast.
>
>  (Data entry and getting permissions requires less technical
>  skill, and
>  can be farmed out amongst a larger committee.)
>
>  -Chris Page
>  San Diego
>
>  On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Maia McCormick via Callers
>  <[email protected]>
>  wrote:
>  > Hi all,
>  >
>  > I'm currently in programming school casting about for
>  programming projects,
>  > and I had the idea of a giant searchable contradance
>  database, where you can
>  > filter by move combination, etc.
>  >
>  > My question: is this something people would be
>  interested in having? Or does
>  > it run the risk of infringing on intellectual property,
>  or shortchanging
>  > dance writers on book sales, etc.? (Obviously no dances
>  would be included
>  > without the author's permission, but it may be that
>  making a huge ton of
>  > dances freely available and searchable in one place
>  online would be a death
>  > blow to published books of dances, or have some other
>  negative effect I'm
>  > not foreseeing right now...)
>  >
>  > Anyway: does anyone have any thoughts on this project?
>  >
>  > Cheers,
>  > Maia
>  >
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> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 13:30:43 -0400
> From: Luke Donforth via Callers <[email protected]>
> To: Maia McCormick <[email protected]>
> Cc: Caller's discussion list <[email protected]>
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> Last I heard, Nils Fredland was the person at CDSS associated with the
> project.
>
> There are non-online versions that allow searching in various ways. You
> might take a look at Caller's Companion http://callerscompanion.com to see
> something already out there.
> On Jul 28, 2014 10:46 AM, "Maia McCormick via Callers" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm currently in programming school casting about for programming
> > projects, and I had the idea of a giant searchable contradance database,
> > where you can filter by move combination, etc.
> >
> > My question: is this something people would be interested in having? Or
> > does it run the risk of infringing on intellectual property, or
> > shortchanging dance writers on book sales, etc.? (Obviously no dances
> would
> > be included without the author's permission, but it may be that making a
> > huge ton of dances freely available and searchable in one place online
> > would be a death blow to published books of dances, or have some other
> > negative effect I'm not foreseeing right now...)
> >
> > Anyway: does anyone have any thoughts on this project?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Maia
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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