Eric Black asked, in response to my comments on the alternating
version of "Chorus Jig":

> As for the CW/CCW and needing to free a right hand, isn’t that actually 
> typical of any cast off?

In the dance Erik Hoffman posted at the start of this thread
(which turned out to be an alternating version of "Hillsboro
Jig"), it's always the men who have their right hand free to
start contra corners and the women who have to "disentangle"
it from the assisted cast.  In the alternating "Chorus Jig",
#1 men have right hands free as usual, but on rounds where
couple 2 leads, it's W2 who has her right hand free after the
cast and M2 who needs to free his.  (And as Bob Isaac noted,
it's about time.)

In the alternating "Chorus Jig" the assisted casts always happen
with everybody proper.  In alternating "Hillboro Jig" (and also
in Jim Kitch's "Double Deal") the cast happen alternately with
everyone proper and with everyone improper.  That's going to
make for some kind of differences in the details about hands
being free or encumbered (and also in the details about men/women
turning cw or ccw).

As a side note, I think that getting the right hand free will
generally be easier if the casting dancer makes sure to have
his/her right arm *below* the left arm of the "assisting"
dancer during the cast.

--Jim

On Jul 23, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Eric Black via Callers 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes, the 1’s fall back into line.  I call “end the swing facing up, 2’s cast 
> up the outside” and teach it as the 2’s coming together to [gently] push off 
> each other in the middle, as many English dancers do.  Then the 1’s step back 
> into line (and don’t step on the 2’s going up the outside).
> 
> After the 2’s swing, I also say “end facing up” and the 1’s cast down the 
> outside, then the 2’s separate and fall back into line.
> 
> As for the CW/CCW and needing to free a right hand, isn’t that actually 
> typical of any cast off?
> 
> -Eric
> 
> 
> On Jul 23, 2014, at 10:11 AM, James Saxe <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> So, Eric, in your alternating version of "Chorus Jig", what
>> happens after the #1 couples swing?  Do they fall back to
>> proper sides (M1 to caller's R; W1 to caller's L) and the 2s
>> cast up the hall from a standing start?  And then after the
>> 2s have their partner swing, do they also fall back proper
>> (M2 to caller's R, W2 to caller's L?  If dancers are indeed
>> proper (men to caller's R, women to callers L) in A1 and A2,
>> regardless of whether 1s or 2s are busy, then, as I figure
>> it, dancers alternately experience cw and ccw rotation during
>> the assisted cast off (by contrast with the ordinary "Chorus
>> Jig" where it's always ccw for men and cw for women) and it
>> will be M2 rather than W2 who needs to free his right arm
>> from around his same-sex neighbor's back in order to start
>> contra corners.  Do I have this right, or am I missing
>> something?
>> 
>> --Jim
>> 
>> On Jul 23, 2014, at 7:21 AM, Eric Black via Callers 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> I’ve done an alternating contra corners of Chorus Jig since shortly after 
>>> Jim Kitch started the trend.  Hadn’t thought about whether it would work 
>>> for any contra corners dance.
>>> 
>>> Eric Black
>>> [email protected]        http://eric-black.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 23, 2014, at 12:37 AM, Erik Hoffman via Callers 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Kiran Wagle once pointed out that, after a post DC dance discussion, some 
>>>> people discovered that any contra corners dance could be turned into an 
>>>> alternating corners dance. Having considered this on most, if not all, of 
>>>> the contra corners dances I know, I don't feel right about calling an old 
>>>> contra corners dance by a new name just because I called it in the 
>>>> alternating style. With that in mind:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for telling me the name of the dance! I'm sure I the Hillsboro Jig 
>>>> in my collection.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> ~erik hoffman
>>>> oakland, ca
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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