I suspect that if you try to announce after the previous dance, many people 
still will be unable to visualize who their shadow is.  I also dislike the idea 
that from the mic, we might suggest that unpleasantness could result from the 
dance.  I'm with Ron on this.  If the dance is really that wonderful, teach it 
with the swing while saying what other move people can do if they choose that 
will have the same result (which will depend on what comes next, but allemande 
1.5 covers a lot of scenarios, or DSD 1.5.).  And let's think about the 
scenarios in which people would not wish to swing:
1) it's an ex or some other relationship drama.  Um.  If you both showed up at 
the dance, I assume it's because you have decided to be grown up about it.  The 
choices above let you choose how to deal, but I'm not bending over backwards. 
Anecdotally, I know these two oldsters in my community, he is a bit of a rakish 
gent and an odd one, she is an old school feminist with a strong personality.  
They will neither touch nor look at one another, but will position themselves 
correctly for the next move.  If they found themselves shadows, they would grit 
their teeth and deal.  
2) it's a creeper.  If this person is that creepy, the leadership need to be 
dealing with them.  It is not the caller who polices creepy behavior.  Refusing 
the swing is legit here.  Options above should help.
3) the person is a terrible swinger.  Yup.  I have had this happen.  To this I 
shrug, say it's just a dance.  Swing defensively, or use the alternate.  Either 
way, it's only a few seconds each time, and only one dance, in a lifetime of 
dances.

I might choose not to call such a dance in a regular hall, but save it for a 
festival, where most people are good dancers, ex's and enemies have generally 
already either decided who is not going to attend or screwed themselves up to 
deal with it.
That leaves creepers.  Still a kindness to suggest an alternate, to be used 
without judgement or hurt feelings if anyone decides they like it better than a 
swing.

My 2c
Andrea


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> On Sep 8, 2015, at 11:16 AM, Rich Sbardella via Callers 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Maia,
> I think it might be better to mention it at the end of the previous dance, so 
> people can choose carefully where they dance without as much chance of 
> offending someone.  Clearly explain what a shadow is, and the relative 
> proximity to a dancers position.  
> Rich
> 
>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Maia McCormick via Callers 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> First, a disclaimer: Some people on this listserv thing shadow swings are 
>> problematic. Some don't see any issue with them. This is NOT the 
>> conversation I want to have in this thread; I ask that you respond to the 
>> question I'm asking and do not debate my premise--at least not in this 
>> particular thread. This should help keep this thread on track and hopefully 
>> reduce excess noise and go-nowhere discussions on this listserv. Thanks!
>> 
>> Anyway, the actual question I wanted to ask (whew!)--
>> 
>> There do exist some really fabulous shadow-swing dances that I would love to 
>> be able to call, as long as I could do so without putting anyone in an 
>> uncomfortable position. Do folks have ideas for ways to mitigate the 
>> potential harms of shadow swing dances? I was considering, at the beginning 
>> of the dance, having dancers identify their shadow and mentioning, "this 
>> will be a shadow swing dance, so if you need to make any changes, do so now" 
>> (or something like that)--haven't gotten the wording down-pat, but the idea 
>> is giving dancers advance warning of a shadow swing so they can move 
>> (thereby changing their shadow) if they need to. Any thoughts on this 
>> method? Suggestions of others?
>> 
>> Cheers.
>> Maia
>> 
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