This issue came up for me at a dance weekend just recently. My partner was 
dreadfully uncomfortable situation with another dancer. A timely gender swap 
solved the problem.

Love this forum!

Bob Green

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> On Sep 8, 2015, at 12:30 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Maia, 
> 
> Let me see if I'm correctly reading your goals:
> You want to call dances with shadow swings
> You want to minimize discomfort
> 
> To do both of those, I think an announcement after folks have lined up is 
> worse than an announcement earlier. If someone is uncomfortable with the idea 
> of swinging a shadow, how comfortable would they be leaving a line after 
> you've made the announcement and highlighting for everyone in the room that 
> there's a problematic interaction? There's no way to surreptitiously drop 
> out; folks have to take new hands four and identify new shadows. I think 
> making the announcement after folks have lined up just puts public pressure 
> on your dancers. 
> 
> You can announce it ahead of time, either at the end of the previous dance; 
> or even during the walkthrough of the previous dance. I know some callers do 
> this for mixers: "Alright, thanks everyone for lining up and taking hands 
> four. Just so you know, the dance after this will be a mixer. You'll keep 
> your partner for this dance, but the one after don't expect to stay with your 
> sweetheart." etc. Andrea raises a good point that it's hard to know where the 
> shadow would be when you line up (or if someone lines up after you).
> 
> Other options that come to mind: 
> Call these dances that are dear to you only in instances where it's unlikely 
> to be an issue. I.e. small dance communities where you know everyone and know 
> it'll be fine; or very large events (dance weekends, etc) where it's much 
> less likely for you to run into someone you have a bad interaction with. If 
> you had a festival session called "Shadow Dances"; then anybody showing up is 
> probably going to expect that they'll swing the occasional shadow. 
> As Ron suggested, you can modify the dance and say "and this move can be a 
> swing". Might defeat why you're trying to call the dance though.
> Make it triplet-esque; in that rather than full long lines, you break folks 
> into small groups (10 dancers, etc) and run the dance for a short time. If 
> there's a shadow, partner, and neighbor swing, chances are you don't want to 
> run the dance super long anyway. You announce "find a partner and about 4 
> other couples for a special dance" and folks can self select a little more. 
> Smaller groups also let more experienced dancers goof/chaos/play more with 
> repetitive dances without throwing off large portions of the hall (I consider 
> a dance with shadow & partner swing, with or without a neighbor swing; to 
> have a high possibility of repetitiveness).
> Hope that helps get you thinking about other options too. Have fun, and 
> remember we're there for the dancers to have a good time.
> Luke
> 
>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Maia McCormick via Callers 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> First, a disclaimer: Some people on this listserv thing shadow swings are 
>> problematic. Some don't see any issue with them. This is NOT the 
>> conversation I want to have in this thread; I ask that you respond to the 
>> question I'm asking and do not debate my premise--at least not in this 
>> particular thread. This should help keep this thread on track and hopefully 
>> reduce excess noise and go-nowhere discussions on this listserv. Thanks!
>> 
>> Anyway, the actual question I wanted to ask (whew!)--
>> 
>> There do exist some really fabulous shadow-swing dances that I would love to 
>> be able to call, as long as I could do so without putting anyone in an 
>> uncomfortable position. Do folks have ideas for ways to mitigate the 
>> potential harms of shadow swing dances? I was considering, at the beginning 
>> of the dance, having dancers identify their shadow and mentioning, "this 
>> will be a shadow swing dance, so if you need to make any changes, do so now" 
>> (or something like that)--haven't gotten the wording down-pat, but the idea 
>> is giving dancers advance warning of a shadow swing so they can move 
>> (thereby changing their shadow) if they need to. Any thoughts on this 
>> method? Suggestions of others?
>> 
>> Cheers.
>> Maia
>> 
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