Wow.  ISTM [It Seems To Me] that this is far more responsibility for 
controlling social interpersonal interactions than the programmer and/or caller 
at the mic should have to worry about, even though we do worry about such 
things.

Sorry I don’t have opportunity to participate on this email list more often.  
That Pesky Day Job [PDJ] and all…

Short response: Don’t point out shadow partner interaction; the dancers need to 
be adult about it, no one listens to the Caller anyway, let alone anything said 
while they’re still lining up.

Longer response:

I really REALLY don’t think that there should be any announcement calling 
attention to the fact that the next dance has interaction with someone other 
than your chosen partner.   What, are we supposed to say “This is a duple 
improper single progression with a shadow who is the same active or inactive 
role one place below [or above] where you line up”?  

Or should we say “Thank this partner, and ask another partner for the next 
dance. As you line up, if there is someone at the dance here tonight with whom 
you don’t want to dance, please make sure that they are in a different longways 
set than you, or that if they are in the same long set as you that they are not 
in an adjacent hands-four from you either up or down as you line up for the 
dance.”

Are we dance choreographers supposed to create dance sequences that don’t have 
any “serious” interaction with the shadow partner, just in case the dancers 
happen to line up such that someone on the floor has an “Ex” as a shadow 
partner?  Or someone who hasn’t showered recently enough?

We already have the problem of MUC rejection of any dance that doesn’t include 
both partner swing and neighbor swing; this seems to be an injection of a 
problem of a potential swing with a neighbor some dancers might not want to 
swing with, yet such swings are still required.
 
I’m confused…

<SoapBox>

Yes, I understand the many reasons for not having serious shadow interactions, 
but I am proud that every local dance community where I’ve been a member, from 
NH/Boston to CA/SF, has understood that interpersonal conflicts will happen, 
and yet social interactions are required. They understand how to make everyone 
work together. Family schisms are inevitable.  Personal hygiene issues may 
arise.
 
I hope that everyone eventually can live the philosophy on Jeremiah’s T-shirt: 
“Dance With Who’s Comin’ Atcha!"

Even long-time couples break up.  It’s painful to the people involved and also 
to everyone surrounding.   We’re all Community here.  Our Community is larger 
and more long-lived than the simple “nuclear family” of two parents and 2.3 
children.  That means we get to “enjoy” many various kinds of family ties, both 
genetic and non-genetic.  The Community connection carries us all through this 
specific break-up episode. The Dance entertains us and it heals us and it 
strengthens The Community.

I say this with a VERY PERSONAL involvement in this community support.

Yes, we DO see what’s going on. Yes, we DO love both of you, even if you’ve 
split apart, and even if there is a court restraining order about you both 
showing up at our dance on the same night (that’s a different discussion, and 
yes, it does happen).

If there’s a personal hygiene problem, sometimes it simply can not be helped.  
I myself could change shirts whenever the band changes tunes and it still would 
not be often enough. In such a case, please enjoy fresh pheromones; fresh sweat 
can be enjoyable sweat.  If it’s stale sweat, then by all means tell the person 
that a shower with soap would make him/her a more enjoyable dance partner. 
That’s a quiet face-to-face conversation.

BUT please dance for several seconds, smile, and move on.
 
All that aside, any swing can be changed to an allemande right once or twice 
(to taste), or an elbow swing, or a do-si-do, or a gypsy (with varying amounts 
of eye contact, again to taste).  Experienced dancers, especially a split 
dancer couple who encounter each other in line, will do whatever they feel 
comfortable with. What a GREAT opportunity to swap roles with your partner, 
given a little look-ahead!  (“Oh! that’s my Ex ahead; let’s swap!” or just take 
hands with the palm-up signal that you’re taking the “Gent” role next time)   
Painless and fun.
 
Never mind that experienced dancers often rewrite the dance to change a 
non-swing dance move into a swing, even in the middle of a hey; it’s just as 
easy to go the other direction, to reduce interaction.  That’s what dancers do. 
Just Be In The Right Place At The Right Time.

We always say that a neighbor interaction is “just one time through the tune, 
just 30 seconds”.  Well, a shadow interaction is generally at most one 8-count 
thing; 4 seconds repeated every once in a while as wonderful music plays.  
Maybe double that for some dances, so then about 8 seconds out of every half 
minute or so.
 
It seems to me that we as social animals should be able to deal with that.

Certainly we do this in our daily lives on the street/office/garage/whatever.  
We can be civil and even develop the ability to enjoy a 10-second interaction 
with an ex we encounter in a public event.

One of the things I love about contra dance is that it gives us all an 
opportunity to “be” the persona we live the rest of the time, or “be” someone 
else during The Dance.  We’re wearing a costume while we’re dancing, even if 
it’s not obvious.  Many of our dancers have an on-the-floor personality which 
is quite different from the personality they exhibit the rest of the time (such 
as while talking and enjoying refreshments at the break during the evening 
dance).  Certainly I wear a different persona on the dance floor than when I am 
at the break, and I’m someone else if I’m calling, and someone else if I’m the 
dance organizer.

THEN there’s the issue of identifying which of the various people “near” you as 
you line up might be your shadow/TrailBuddy.  In a Becket dance it’s likely to 
be your neighbor to the side in line, or could be next beyond them, or the 
neighbor to the other side, or maybe the next beyond them.  I TRULY advise 
against spending too much effort in identifying the “Corner/TrailBuddy” in 
advance, as the dancers are lined up.  In a duple improper, your shadow could 
be ahead, could be behind.  It depends on the choreography. And it changes if 
someone drops out, or if someone joins in after the walkthrough.
 
That’s not the place to spend your precious seconds at the mic as a caller.  
Get them moving and listening to the music.

</SoapBox>

We already have the problem of MUC [Modern Urban Contra] rejection of any dance 
that doesn’t include both partner swing and neighbor swing; this seems to be an 
injection of a problem of a potential swing with a neighbor some dancers might 
not want to swing with, yet such swings are still required.
 
I’m confused...

-Eric


On Sep 8, 2015, at 8:06 AM, Maia McCormick via Callers 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Hey all,
> 
> First, a disclaimer: Some people on this listserv thing shadow swings are 
> problematic. Some don't see any issue with them. This is NOT the conversation 
> I want to have in this thread; I ask that you respond to the question I'm 
> asking and do not debate my premise--at least not in this particular thread. 
> This should help keep this thread on track and hopefully reduce excess noise 
> and go-nowhere discussions on this listserv. Thanks!
> 
> Anyway, the actual question I wanted to ask (whew!)--
> 
> There do exist some really fabulous shadow-swing dances that I would love to 
> be able to call, as long as I could do so without putting anyone in an 
> uncomfortable position. Do folks have ideas for ways to mitigate the 
> potential harms of shadow swing dances? I was considering, at the beginning 
> of the dance, having dancers identify their shadow and mentioning, "this will 
> be a shadow swing dance, so if you need to make any changes, do so now" (or 
> something like that)--haven't gotten the wording down-pat, but the idea is 
> giving dancers advance warning of a shadow swing so they can move (thereby 
> changing their shadow) if they need to. Any thoughts on this method? 
> Suggestions of others?
> 
> Cheers.
> Maia
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