Thanks to all who have offered comments, on-list and off, about using music 
during a contra dance newcomers' orientation.

I have follow-up questions to some of the things people have said.  I also 
welcome anybody's additional comment on any aspect of the subject, whether or 
not they relate to my specific questions below.

Since a lot of this discussion is about using music to help teach dance skills, 
I want to acknowledge a couple points to keep things in perspective.  First, it 
may be urged with much merit that a contra newcomers' orientation should be 
more about attitudes and social skills than about dance skills.  We want to 
help newcomers have the confidence to get into the first few dances, to have 
them understand that they needn't be mortified about mistakes, to keep them 
from being surprised at the level of eye contact, to have them understand that 
it's not a show of displeasure when a partner thanks them for a dance and then 
goes off to seek a different partner for the next dance, etc.  Any teaching of 
dance skills that can be added in the available time is a bonus.  Second, I 
don't imagine for a moment that most new dancers will fully latch on to all 
dance skills taught in the newcomers' session, learning them thoroughly and 
retaining them forever, ready to apply as needed.  Rather, I fully e
 xpect to see situations where, to give just one example, a dancer has to work 
so hard at understanding or remembering a bit of choreography that the stuff 
they seemed to have learned about dancing to the phrase of music just goes out 
the window.

Now, to return to peoples' earlier comments and to my follow-up questions ...

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John Sweeney wrote

> The only thing I focus on with respect to music is getting them to hear the
> eights and be ready for the next "one".

John (or anyone who cares to reply), do you say anything in particular about 
the structure of the music or have new dancers do any particular exercises to 
practice awareness of "the eights" (for example, having everyone listen to a 
tune and clap on the first beat of every eight)?

> ... So I always spend most of the time on
> the swing.  Then [Circle Left, Into the Middle & Back (with a stamp on four
> so that they get used to working with the music ready for Long Lines Go
> Forward & Back), Swing your Neighbour]. Repeat until ...

Do I correctly understand that this is an exercise you have them do in big 
circle formation?  Do you say or do anything in particular to teach them hear 
the end of a phrase approaching and recognize when they don't have enough music 
left to swing another time around?

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Rich Goss wrote

> I will often ask the fiddle player to come out on the floor and play for a 
> short circle dance.

and Adam Carlson wrote

> ... I'll usually do two dances. First a circle mixer to teach phrasing, build 
> confidence and introduce the idea of progression (although with a person 
> progressing, not a couple). Then I do a simple contra or contra-like dance 
> maybe with some improvised steps to teach them progression, listening to the 
> caller and resetting themselves. I enlist the musicians to play for these.

Rich or Adam (or anyone else who incorporates teaching of a complete easy dance 
into your newcomer's session), would you care to share examples of the dances 
you use?

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Woody Lane wrote:

> ... during the last 4 minutes or so of the lesson, I ask the band to play a 
> single tune -- whatever the band likes, reel or jig. I want the tempo at 
> regular dance speed -- 112-118 or so. The dancers are still in their 
> foursomes. Then I call those moves to the music -- hash call so no one knows 
> what move is next. The dancers dance to the music, do the moves at speed in 
> the right tempo, finish the moves on time, and learn to listen to the caller. 
> ...

Woody, could you give an example of part of a sequence you might hash call to 
music in this exercise?  Also do you ask dancers to put their foursomes in any 
particular orientation (e.g., couples facing each other with backs to the side 
walls as in a Becket contra)?

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While several of you wrote about wanting new dancers to learn to hear the 
phrasing of the music, I've only gotten one reply so far (off-list) that 
mentioned dancing with the _beat_ of the music, and that reply didn't go into 
much detail about how to teach dancing with the beat.

On the dance floor, I occasionally encounter new dancers who are not stepping 
to the beat.  Perhaps they think that in order to be "dancing" they have to do 
some kind of fancy footwork, and it wouldn't even occur to them to do something 
as simple as just taking one step to each downbeat. Perhaps they hear a highly 
ornamented/notey tune and think its telling them to take lots of quick little 
steps. Perhaps the newcomers' session leader or some other dancer showed them 
how to do a buzz-step swing and they somehow got the idea that they should use 
the same step for other figures, such as allemandes, courtesy turns, and 
circles.  Whatever's going on in their heads, I conjecture that at least some 
of those dancers may be paying attention to their feet in a way that distracts 
them from attending to other things, such as the phrase of the music, the 
pattern of the dance, the calls, or their interactions with partners and 
neighbors.

If any of you explicitly address the topic of stepping on the downbeat in your 
new dancers' lesson, I'd like to know the details of how you do it.

Thanks for anyone's comments on any of the topics above or anything else 
relating to use of music in a new contra dancers' intro lesson.

--Jim

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